Spoilers Star Trek Academy [spoiler thread]

[Morrus]

The first episode, where they did a saucer sep and flew it down to the campus, further complicates trying to figure out when they're there, or have rejoined the rest of the (apparently unnecessary) warp drive nacelles.

I’m so confused.

 

[Ryujin]

I’m so confused.

You're not alone.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Did it land? I assumed it was in orbit and they beamed onto it.

To the best of my understanding of the pilot, it did. I therefore assume it is landed whenever we don't see it doing active starship stuff, like last episode 's field trip.

 

[Ryujin]

To the best of my understanding of the pilot, it did. I therefore assume it is landed whenever we don't see it doing active starship stuff, like last episode 's field trip.

I agree with Morrus that it's something we shouldn't need to assume.

 

[Omand]

Agree that the Athena was landed for the episode (and most of the other episodes).

In the fiction I don't think it is a very logical way to set things up. It would be a compromise design that would end up being mediocre at doing the things you want it to do (not the best at being a starship nor the best at being an educational campus).

Behind the scenes, however, it is a "sexy" image to the showrunners, as they get to use the beautiful sets for everything. This saves money and time (and time is money in the film industry) in regards to building more sets, paying for soundstage space, having to change set dressing to make one set look a bit different between the campus vs the starship, etc.

With all that said, I just ignore the logic and run with it. I could nitpick more, but the characters and story should be doing the heavy lifting of the drama. Many of Shakespeare's plays were presented when his troupe was a traveling company and they therefore presented where they could. Even once moved into the (original) Globe Theatre, sets would have been rudimentary and laughable to us today.

Having said that, I can understand people's confusion. The show really has not been clear to us on what is and is not part of the ship, and what parts of the campus are fixed and stationary.

Cheers

 

[Zaukrie]

Agree that the Athena was landed for the episode (and most of the other episodes).

In the fiction I don't think it is a very logical way to set things up. It would be a compromise design that would end up being mediocre at doing the things you want it to do (not the best at being a starship nor the best at being an educational campus).

Behind the scenes, however, it is a "sexy" image to the showrunners, as they get to use the beautiful sets for everything. This saves money and time (and time is money in the film industry) in regards to building more sets, paying for soundstage space, having to change set dressing to make one set look a bit different between the campus vs the starship, etc.

With all that said, I just ignore the logic and run with it. I could nitpick more, but the characters and story should be doing the heavy lifting of the drama. Many of Shakespeare's plays were presented when his troupe was a traveling company and they therefore presented where they could. Even once moved into the (original) Globe Theatre, sets would have been rudimentary and laughable to us today.

Having said that, I can understand people's confusion. The show really has not been clear to us on what is and is not part of the ship, and what parts of the campus are fixed and stationary.

Cheers

I also ignore the logic....and 100% it is partly (mostly) about sets and money.

 

[Ryujin]

Agree that the Athena was landed for the episode (and most of the other episodes).

In the fiction I don't think it is a very logical way to set things up. It would be a compromise design that would end up being mediocre at doing the things you want it to do (not the best at being a starship nor the best at being an educational campus).

Behind the scenes, however, it is a "sexy" image to the showrunners, as they get to use the beautiful sets for everything. This saves money and time (and time is money in the film industry) in regards to building more sets, paying for soundstage space, having to change set dressing to make one set look a bit different between the campus vs the starship, etc.

With all that said, I just ignore the logic and run with it. I could nitpick more, but the characters and story should be doing the heavy lifting of the drama. Many of Shakespeare's plays were presented when his troupe was a traveling company and they therefore presented where they could. Even once moved into the (original) Globe Theatre, sets would have been rudimentary and laughable to us today.

Having said that, I can understand people's confusion. The show really has not been clear to us on what is and is not part of the ship, and what parts of the campus are fixed and stationary.

Cheers

I'd like to just roll with it, but my brain keeps poking at me with, "If they lose power, how do those damned unattached nacelles not go wandering off on their own?"

 

[Omand]

I'd like to just roll with it, but my brain keeps poking at me with, "If they lose power, how do those damned unattached nacelles not go wandering off on their own?"

That, I agree with you.

That was a decision made in Discovery that they just brought into this show based upon the shared timeline. It makes no sense in-universe if you think things through. That and the Dr. Who TARDIS like interior of Discovery after refit (with turbolifts that create their own tracks, etc.) made me eye roll hard when it came up when dealing with the Emerald Chain and Osyra.

But, it is the logic we are given for the 32nd century.

Cheers

 

[Morrus]

You're not alone.

Wow. I do NOT remember that scene!

 

[Ryujin]

Wow. I do NOT remember that scene!

So presumably the bridge section becomes the central core offices and atrium, with the crew quarters forming the outer truncated torus. It's not explicitly stated anywhere, but that feels like the only geometry that works.