Spoilers Star Trek Academy [spoiler thread]

[Stalker0]

I’m so confused.

The ship lands on the planet and Merges with the campus. Nothing more, nothing less

 

[Stalker0]

Overall a decent episode. Jayden to me is the most improved, he was a bit of a limp fish at first but now he’s vocal and interesting enough that I care about his struggle.

I’m a bit confused on Gemini. So I guess you tried to get references for the academy…all of her references said “she’s too afraid”…and then she faked them?

I just can’t reconcile that with the character we see. She is incredibly confident and brave who seems to have excelled her whole life. Sure she might have some things to work on but I can’t imagine such a person couldn’t secure good references.

 

[Ryujin]

Overall a decent episode. Jayden to me is the most improved, he was a bit of a limp fish at first but now he’s vocal and interesting enough that I care about his struggle.

I don't think that the writers necessarily had a handle on what to do with his character. It kind of feels like they just needed a Klingon and wanted to make him different, but didn't think much further than that. Sort of the same as TNG in the first season.

I’m a bit confused on Gemini. So I guess you tried to get references for the academy…all of her references said “she’s too afraid”…and then she faked them?

I just can’t reconcile that with the character we see. She is incredibly confident and brave who seems to have excelled her whole life. Sure she might have some things to work on but I can’t imagine such a person couldn’t secure good references.

Two words: Imposter Syndrome. I know many who suffer from it.

 

[Omand]

I don't think that the writers necessarily had a handle on what to do with his character. It kind of feels like they just needed a Klingon and wanted to make him different, but didn't think much further than that. Sort of the same as TNG in the first season.

Two words: Imposter Syndrome. I know many who suffer from it.

Imposter syndrome and/or needing to measure up to Dad's achievements & expectations and feeling that if she is not perfect she is not there. Even if her Dad does not actually expect her to be perfect, the example he has set to her for her whole life (she has mentioned many times growing up on starbases and starships) may be hard for her to shake. The military kid trope is a strong one in lots of different fiction because the stereotype of the military parent being a hard-nosed disciplinarian despite loving their child (in fact, because they see risk and need the child to be tough) is common enough in real life, even if not identical to the stereotype we see and hear repeated.

Cheers

 

[Ryujin]

Imposter syndrome and/or needing to measure up to Dad's achievements & expectations and feeling that if she is not perfect she is not there. Even if her Dad does not actually expect her to be perfect, the example he has set to her for her whole life (she has mentioned many times growing up on starbases and starships) may be hard for her to shake. The military kid trope is a strong one in lots of different fiction because the stereotype of the military parent being a hard-nosed disciplinarian despite loving their child (in fact, because they see risk and need the child to be tough) is common enough in real life, even if not identical to the stereotype we see and hear repeated.

Cheers

Yup. I took my lead from her comment about whether she had earned her place, or if she had been given it because of who her father is.

 

[Stalker0]

Two words: Imposter Syndrome. I know many who suffer from it.

I can respect she has that, what I am trying to reconcile is....is that really what her references would say about her?

Again she hasn't been scared at all in the show. She is brave and extremely competent. She is also savvy enough that she would choose references that would say the best about it (I mean hell I know to do that and I don't have super fancy political parents). Your telling me the people she chose as references didn't say good things about her?

Or are they trying to say "they did say good things, but it wasn't 'good enough'?"

 

[Ryujin]

I can respect she has that, what I am trying to reconcile is....is that really what her references would say about her?

Again she hasn't been scared at all in the show. She is brave and extremely competent. She is also savvy enough that she would choose references that would say the best about it (I mean hell I know to do that and I don't have super fancy political parents). Your telling me the people she chose as references didn't say good things about her?

Or are they trying to say "they did say good things, but it wasn't 'good enough'?"

I think that you're assuming that she chose the references rather than, perhaps, her father arranging for them. I don't think that was said. She edited the references, because she had doubts about parts of them. Connections got them.

 

[Mort]

I think that you're assuming that she chose the references rather than, perhaps, her father arranging for them. I don't think that was said. She edited the references, because she had doubts about parts of them. Connections got them.

That makes sense, but would make it MORE likely the references would be glowing not damaging.

Would references the admiral arranged REALLY disparage the daughter in any way (Star Trek admirals are not known for their kind and forgiving nature)?

Of course one of the points was the references were not actually damaging, Genesis just thought they were and overreacted.

 

[Ryujin]

That makes sense, but would make it MORE likely the references would be glowing not damaging.

Would references the admiral arranged REALLY disparage the daughter in any way (Star Trek admirals are not known for their kind and forgiving nature)?

Of course one of the points was the references were not actually damaging, Genesis just thought they were and overreacted.

When you doubt yourself what seems like a positive reference to another, feels like a slight to you. Or the comment might be something glowing that you don't think you can actually live up to.