Star Trek Strange New Worlds, what did you think?

[Thomas Shey]

No, they don't. They do things like internal trials for breaches of the Police Services Act (name specific to Canada). A rose by any other name smells like compost.

At least in the U.S.--and TOS was very U.S. centric in its basic assumptions--they still have to be tried by a civilian court after that; all inquests do is decide, at best, if you can get kicked off the force. That pretty clearly wasn't the case there.

Basically, at some point them "not being military" is just an informed trait; it doesn't seem to match their organization, equipment, or methodology under threat in any meaningful way. Its not like some of what they do that isn't strictly military hasn't frequently been one of the military's side jobs, too (diplomatic escort and contact for example). The exploration end hasn't been a thing in the real world for some centuries now, but even when it was, the people doing it might as well have been private military contractors for all intents and purposes (and in few cases, absolutely were). So we're left with the science end being unprecedented for a military, and that's just not enough for me to buy that's not, in practice, what they are. In the TOS era, they weren't even that much slow off the trigger than militaries with strong rules of engagement.

 

[Mort]

At least in the U.S.--and TOS was very U.S. centric in its basic assumptions--they still have to be tried by a civilian court after that; all inquests do is decide, at best, if you can get kicked off the force. That pretty clearly wasn't the case there.

Basically, at some point them "not being military" is just an informed trait; it doesn't seem to match their organization, equipment, or methodology under threat in any meaningful way. Its not like some of what they do that isn't strictly military hasn't frequently been one of the military's side jobs, too (diplomatic escort and contact for example). The exploration end hasn't been a thing in the real world for some centuries now, but even when it was, the people doing it might as well have been private military contractors for all intents and purposes (and in few cases, absolutely were). So we're left with the science end being unprecedented for a military, and that's just not enough for me to buy that's not, in practice, what they are. In the TOS era, they weren't even that much slow off the trigger than militaries with strong rules of engagement.

Right, Exploration/science along with military expansion WAS what made the British empire what it was - expressly that formula of science and military going hand in hand.

When the Earth starts exploring other planets - it makes perfect sense it would lead with that wildly successful model.

And it certainly looks like that's what starfleet is.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Right, Exploration/science along with military expansion WAS what made the British empire what it was - expressly that formula of science and military going hand in hand.

When the Earth starts exploring other planets - it makes perfect sense it would lead with that wildly successful model.

And it certainly looks like that's what starfleet is.

Well yeah, you gonna send a bunch of nerds without guns into the wilds to find new species’ of newt?

 

[Ondath]

Well, episode 8!

I was ready to file this under "no brainer fun" but then they pulled that last minute story progression. In terms of the crew acting in different roles, I guess it's comparable to The Naked Now, which was the third episode of the TNG and was really awful because it tried to show how the characters acted in a different situation when we didn't know the characters yet. I think we had a good grasp of the characters to enjoy their new roles, and Pike and La'an in particular were hilarious!

I did not expect Rukiyah's storyline to end so quickly, but on the other hand I think it felt right emotionally.

Overall, I liked the episode but it does feel a bit weaker compared to the strong start we had.

 

[bloodtide]

S1E8

Wow...a holodeck episode?!?

Dr.M'Benga reads his daughter a book? I book? You'd think he would have something more like an E-book.

And it's sad that M'Benga COULD have been reading an African (or really anything other then a Western Europien ) story book. We could have had a more cultured holodeck adventure, not just bad Game of Thrones.

M'Benga is a bad father. His daughter is dying of whatsomemacallit. So he hides her in a transporter, works full time as a ships doctor, and every so often works on her illness. You know a good dad might put her in a hospital and have lots of other doctors help and maybe work on a cure full time.

Guess the daughter does not know about Choose your own Adventure books? Or Fan Fiction? Or really just fiction in general?

And sure the writers don't care about continuity....but did not Una and Laan MURDER M'benga's daughter when they used the SICKBAY TRANSPORTER to play Bingo.....

Oh look M'Benga goes to work on a cure...but gets interrupted by his job

The Use the Enterprise sets....but fill them with Medieval Junk...REALLY looks cheap

Sure is nice all the brainwashed crew members fight in below Rated G level, so they...you know.....knock down bad guys with a sword.

Choose Crew or Daughter?!? And Bad Dad M picks the crew?


And bad dad M just abandons his daughter in the nebula?


The whole sick daughter sub plot really just fizzles out...oh, she is sick...and poof she is cured and living in the nebula.

This might be the worst bottle epsiode of all time....and the shows has MILLIONS and Millions of dollars.

 

[Mort]

Easter egg re: the author of the children's book read by M'Benga.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

I think we had a good grasp of the characters to enjoy their new roles, and Pike and La'an in particular were hilarious!

I mostly agree, and I think it was wise of them to make two of our least developed characters, M'Benga and Hemmer, the ones who got to keep their existing personalities. My one objection is that I think this episode probably had the majority of Ortegas' lines so far in the show. I wish they would have given her at least a featured B plot or something before turning her into Sir Adya.

Still miles better placement in running order than the "The Naked Now".

 

[Umbran]

They doth protest too much.

That goes both ways.

 

[Umbran]

Easter egg re: the author of the children's book read by M'Benga.

That is one nice Easter egg reference.

 

[Umbran]

This might be the worst bottle epsiode of all time....

S'okay. This might be the worst media review piece of all time, too. A match made in Sto'Vo'Qor!