DM_Matt said:
Once the million and a half ways to make something that regenerates immune to everything that can deal damage is complete, here are the finishers:
1. An undead template: My favorite is Akutenshi, but Lich and other work too. vampire has too many special vulerabilities. This will sometimes add DR, but most importantly grant immunity from instadeath spells, subdula dmg (which is key, as all physical dmg will become that, and compulsions and eliminate a need for food, air, or sleep.
Undead is nice, but there are a couple of pitfalls:
1. The Vampire only works on humanoids, and most smacked monsters are usually outsiders or dragons. So that wount go. I don't now about the Akutenshi (OA ?), that might work.
2. You suddenly become vulnerable to to all the Cure/Heal spells, and you don't want that. Mass Heal is a extremely nasty spell for ndeads.
Thus IMHO the undead template is bad for this type of smack.
DM_Matt said:
2. Make him immune to disintegrate: either a spellblade or the Chosen of Mystra template will do.
That is not a bad idea, but with the SR45 its kindof overkill. It's probably useful if you got a couple of levels to spare. But it'll go do badly with the Forsaker levels in the above smack.
Al said:
Incidentally, the axiomatic barbarian is a no-no: axiomatics have to be lawful...but assuming it's fiendish instead, you could use an SR smackdown.
You are absolutely correct, I did in fact notice that in another tread, but forgot it here. But fighter works equally well with the forsaker, so if you want axiomatic you can go that route.
Al said:
Failing that, you can use negative levels without spells. Just summon a few spectres, incorporeal TOUCH attack (what's it's AC without armor?) and knock off its levels.
Or just throw the towel in and use Imprisonment: the no. 1 anti-smackdown tool (no save, no SR: isn't it just wonderful?)
These are very good suggestions, and pretty hard to counter.
The undead template would fix the spectres, but that's not the way to go (see above). So I guess we'll have to go for
half-celestial, a "Protection from Evil" will at least take care of the
summoned spectres. I can find no easy way around normal spectres, if anyone has a good idea, I'm open for suggestions....
Imprisonment is certainly a hard nut to crack, I guess the only reasonable solution is the good old Anti-Magic Field. Beeing a Forsaker that is definitely hard to do youself, so I guess the old "pixie in the backback"trick is needed here.
Of course we are definitely far into the realms of the improbable here, but it's still fun to do these exersises
.Zigy
