Survivor (Non-PHB) Feats: FEY TELEPORTATION WINS!

[Son of the Serpent]

Bountiful Luck 3-2=1
Dragon Fear 3
Fade Away 12
Fey Teleportation 11
Prodigy 11+1=13

Prodigy open to more races, has good mechanical benefit, can easily develop from character/game arcs, and can be useful for any PC.

I don’t see the hate

Then its a different feat though. In essence it is literally the "hey im a human feat" even though it makes 0 sense because the justification given is really just a long standing mcguffen that is assigned to a race that arguably isnt even a good candidate for it to be intended for.

 

[Jediking]

Then its a different feat though. In essence it is literally the "hey im a human feat" even though it makes 0 sense because the justification given is really just a long standing mcguffen that is assigned to a race that arguably isnt even a good candidate for it to be intended for.

I do think it should be opened to any race (personally I allow it), but as these are all racial feats and all limited in who can take them anyways, at least having human/half orc/half elf it is more available to more characters than something like Dragon Fear

I also liked the UA Tools feats though - I did find some of the mechanics clunky but liked the idea behind it overall

 

[tglassy]

Then its a different feat though. In essence it is literally the "hey im a human feat" even though it makes 0 sense because the justification given is really just a long standing mcguffen that is assigned to a race that arguably isnt even a good candidate for it to be intended for.

I don’t see that. Humans are supposed to be versatile, and Prodigy is all about being versatile.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

I don’t see that. Humans are supposed to be versatile, and Prodigy is all about being versatile.

You literally quoted an edition specific form of the mcguffin i was saying basically juat gets repeated every edition.

"Humans are versatile (implied: MOST versatile)"

Are they though really? Are they? That is actually the mcguffin im referencing. It was only really ever a thing because they couldnt come up with something better. Lets be fair. Its literally saying "hey guys, humans should get more being good-at-generally-anything-broad-stat-boosts because 'they should'".

Rephrasing the wanted effect as the reason for the effect doesnt make the reason anymore properly justified. And saying humans are more versatile than all other races just because people have been saying that for as long as human has been vanilla is also not a good reason to consider them actually versatile.

Consider the myths and high fantasy these races are typically from. Ok now consider elves (strong tall kind). Which one almost always has the clear advantage at the majority of things they try to do? Aslight edge in most any area? There are many examples other than elves too. Humans are versatile. They arent the most versatile. Thats silliness. Prodigy isnt a good look on them. Its just steroids because no one came up with a feat that genuinely made any sense.

Ok. Point made.

I would actually recommend giving them feats that resemble human tendancy for mass industry and social feats.

 

[TiwazTyrsfist]

Bountiful Luck 1
Dragon Fear 3
Fade Away 13
Fey Teleportation 11
Prodigy 10

(11 + 1 = 12 previous poster made a typo)

 

[CleverNickName]

Prodigy open to more races, has good mechanical benefit, can easily develop from character/game arcs, and can be useful for any PC.

I don’t see the hate

To be fair, I hate all of these feats equally. I don't like Prodigy because I think it's uninteresting and weak compared to other options in the PHB. I think it's a terrible choice at any level, but especially terrible at any level higher than 1st.

Plenty of other people feel differently about it, and that's fine. Weird, but fine.

 

[tglassy]

To be fair, I hate all of these feats equally. I don't like Prodigy because I think it's uninteresting and weak compared to other options in the PHB. I think it's a terrible choice at any level, but especially terrible at any level higher than 1st.

Plenty of other people feel differently about it, and that's fine. Weird, but fine.

Personally, I don’t think there’s anything weak about getting expertise in Athletics, especially when you can get Advantage on Strength check’s so easily. At lvl 5, that’s at least a +10 with advantage on all grapple checks. I had a grappling Sorcerer at lvl 4 who used Enlarge/Reduce to make himself Large, and then grappled a Shadow Dragon and shoving it prone, keeping it in the daylight and letting the party wail on it while it continuously wasted its action trying to break the grapple, which it couldn’t do. He beat a Planetar by himself by grappling it and sticking it into a Wall of Blades. The thing kept trying to break the grapple, rather than attack with disadvantage.

Having expertise in a skill is nothing to sneeze at, and can enhance a particular build or play style.

 

[Tallifer]

Bountiful Luck 1
Dragon Fear 3
Fade Away 14
Fey Teleportation 9
Prodigy 10

 

[Swarmkeeper]

Bountiful Luck -1 - keep it to yourself, hobbit
Dragon Fear 3
Fade Away 14
Fey Teleportation 9
Prodigy 11

 

[Harzel]

Ugh - I don't want to be reduced to upvoting Prodigy, but it appears soon I'll have no choice.

Dragon Fear 3 + 1 = 4
Fade Away 14 - 2 = 12 - aka Gnome Cowardice
Fey Teleportation 9 - I can cast a spell for free once in a while because reasons
Prodigy 11