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Crothian said:
The barbairans damage and hit points go away once the rage ends. ;)
I'm not talking about THOSE hit points. I'm talkin' 'bout the munchkin-sized d12 HD you get. You never *use* the hit points from rage unless you're in dire need against a main boss.

Quit stalling. You know this is all part of your vile plan to take over the world! :]
 

a d12 average a single hit point greater then the figher. So, even at 20th level they only have 20 more hit points on average then them. That's maybe one more hit worth, the d12 is not that good. It's the con bonus that the HP really come from.
 

Jdvn1 said:
No Barbarians? If anyone has ideas on them, I"ll listen.


Nope. Noone's played a single-class barbarian since waaay back in late 2000 (when 3e first came out). I don't know why.... There's been 2 who "dipped" into a level or two of barbarian for story purposes. But that's been all.
 

Evilhalfling said:
I just don't like the whole rage thing. It seems such a foriegn concept to most cultures I would call barbarians. There was a savage template somewhere that gave any other class illiteracy, more HP, fast movement and savage skill list. The problem is The rage ability is really the core ability of the class, and they are weakned with out it.

I play mostly casters, out of 8 3rd ed PCs only one has lacked magical talent.


All but one of my characters have been spellcasters of some sort- from the partial spellcasters of paladins and rangers to full casters like clerics and wizards. We've had the occasional druid in the mix but none right now.
 

Crothian said:
a d12 average a single hit point greater then the figher. So, even at 20th level they only have 20 more hit points on average then them. That's maybe one more hit worth, the d12 is not that good. It's the con bonus that the HP really come from.
Sure. I've seen the way dice roll when people are rolling hit points. Only about the top 75% of the die exists. "Well, lookie there! My barbarian rolled an 11 again! Who'd a thunk it?" :]
 

Cyberzombie said:
Sure. I've seen the way dice roll when people are rolling hit points. Only about the top 75% of the die exists. "Well, lookie there! My barbarian rolled an 11 again! Who'd a thunk it?" :]
That... never... happens... :uhoh:

We roll hp in front of the DM and he lets us have one reroll.
 

Cyberzombie said:
Sure. I've seen the way dice roll when people are rolling hit points. Only about the top 75% of the die exists. "Well, lookie there! My barbarian rolled an 11 again! Who'd a thunk it?" :]

Ah, so the problem is with the players,....that happens a lot. we use an auto roller on the computer that e-mails the result to the DM. So far my fighter has gotten a 5 and a 6 :(
 

Crothian said:
Ah, so the problem is with the players,....that happens a lot. we use an auto roller on the computer that e-mails the result to the DM. So far my fighter has gotten a 5 and a 6 :(
Yow!

For my campaigns, I give the players the top half of the die. So your minimum would have been a 6. Of course, I give all the monsters 75% of maximum hps, too, so it all works out in the end. I just find it more fun to have the bigger numbers. :)
 


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