Temple of Elemental Evil discussion thread (merged)

[Radical DM]

re demo

If you have Kazaa installed and good conection you can legally down load the whole game and play it for free for 6 hours. If you do get to pay for it you get a non cd version with the ingame movies

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Does anyone else thinks that there are not enough arcane spell scrolls, vendor sold or looted? Most of my wizard's spells come from the 2 spells he gets from leveling. Any hidden vendor anywhere? or NPC wizard I can "persude" to give them to me?

Have you visited Burne? He's got a bunch of scrolls for sale. I've found a bunch, too, between the temple & moathouse. I haven't felt I've been lacking for any spells yet, between scrolls and my spell choices.


For those who might be interested, here's a review written from a PnP Gamer's perspective (as compared to a primarily computer gaming perspective).

 

[garyh]

There is a demo for the game, hasn't been released yet to the best of my knowledge. In fact the last I read of it it, Toika had finished it up and sent it off to Atari to make the installer and rest is up to them.

So you know, it's not unusual for a demo to be released after the game itself.

Thanks for the info, Welverin!

 

[Wycen]

I'd like to know about the NPC's who can join your party. I was at a friends house Thursday night for our Farscape d20 game and saw the box on his computer desk and asked him about it before our game.

He said one of the NPC's is a spinster, who'll join your party, but only if you marry her. He was afraid of trying it to find out. Anybody have details about this, or the other NPC's who join you?

 

[mmu1]

I'd like to know about the NPC's who can join your party. I was at a friends house Thursday night for our Farscape d20 game and saw the box on his computer desk and asked him about it before our game.

He said one of the NPC's is a spinster, who'll join your party, but only if you marry her. He was afraid of trying it to find out. Anybody have details about this, or the other NPC's who join you?

[SPOILERS]


There's a lot of them... In the inn in Hommlet alone you have your pick of a couple of fighter types, a fighter an a monk that come as a package deal, a Mage and a Rogue, Rufus and Burne (the former adventurers - lords of Hommlet) will join you eventually as well, in Nulb you can buy the freedom of a gypsy Rogue that'll join up, you can hook up with a gay pirate (who the hell wrote this module?), you can get Otis the blacksmith to go with you, in the Temple itself there are a couple of orc prisoners and a very competent Gnome Fighter/Rogue that'll go with you... I know there are many more as well.

Only problem is, most of them suck. They have ok stats but usually pathetic HPs, and tend to demand ridiculous amounts of loot and money for their worthless services, so I have yet to actually adventure with any - especially sicne there is no interaction between party members, so who cares if they come along (unless you absolutely need them to survive the combats, or something) - this definitely isn't BGII where every NPC had a quest...

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Marrying the spinster is hilarious; she has quite a mouth, and fights with a kitchen cleaver (it involves solving a quest for ST Cuthbert). There's another girl you can marry to join your group (a druid), and a gay pirate as well (who's secret desire is to become a dentist LOL). There's a wandering bard, and a Hill Giant chief you can recruit. Even the master of the moathouse, Lareth the Beautiful, will join your party as an NPC under certain circumstances. You can rescure Prince Thrommel and he'll join. Those are the oddballs -- then there are the more "normal" NPCs that people will recognize from the module who can join the party (some only once certain quests are completed, others for a share of the loot) -- Elmo, Spugnoir, Zert, Turuko & his barbarian pal, Furnok of Ferd, Otis, various men-at-arms, even Burne and Rufus, guardians of Hommlet.

The NPCs don't interact with you quite as much as in BG2, but they do say/do their own things, and can be pretty fun.

 

[Pielorinho]

Does anyone else thinks that there are not enough arcane spell scrolls, vendor sold or looted? Most of my wizard's spells come from the 2 spells he gets from leveling. Any hidden vendor anywhere? or NPC wizard I can "persude" to give them to me?

Not that I know of, and I agree: scrolls are too rare in the game. I'm considering creating a first-level wizard to join the game, level up to third level, get bull's strength and bear's endurance, scribe them as scrolls, and give them to my ninth-level wizard, just so I can copy them into my spellbook (hopefully -- rumor is that scribing stat-boost spells is buggy) and create the appropriate magic items. It's annoying.

Daniel

 

[uv23]

Two things:

NPC looting bugs me. I would be happy to give the NPCs good items but I've had them loot perfectly good items (like wands) then up and sell them when I go to barter with someone. Stupid. Needless to say, every NPC that has joine dmy part has died and I don't shed any tears.

Now, I need soem help in the Temple. I'm kinda confused:

Spoiler

I first got some mission from the earth temple priest to go and kill some other priest, I believe the fire temple priest. Great, then I go around the fire temple areas and am doing missions for the fire temple priest before I kill him. But theres this commander guy in the eastern part of teh fire temple that says "go on through the doors behind me to see so and so" but there are no doors behind him!! Yet I can see a block on the map behind him that I haven't been to. Argh, annoying. Anyways, am I doing this right? This adventure has become rather aimless and I feel like I;m just double crossing everyone (why the hell would the dialog options have wanted me to convert that batch of ogres from water to air when I was wearing water robes at teh time?). Anyways a bit annoyed with the inaneness of it all.

Also, do the element of the robes I'm wearing actually have an effect while walking around in the temple? In most areas monsters don't attack me, but my last battle last night was some seemingly random battle with about 30 bugbears. No idea why they attacked me when no one else did.

ramble ramble ramble...

 

[Daxz]

Not that I know of, and I agree: scrolls are too rare in the game. I'm considering creating a first-level wizard to join the game, level up to third level, get bull's strength and bear's endurance, scribe them as scrolls, and give them to my ninth-level wizard, just so I can copy them into my spellbook (hopefully -- rumor is that scribing stat-boost spells is buggy) and create the appropriate magic items. It's annoying.

Daniel

Yeah, I'm specially looking for those stat buff spells for my Item creation feats. The thing that annoy me is that scrolls don't say if they are divine or arcane. Funny thing is, I created a bull strenght scroll with my druid and gave it to my wizard, he can use the scroll but he can't copy it into his spellbook. Sigh, guess I'm spoiled by BG, IWD and NWN where I always ended up with tons of scrolls.

 

[Aulayan]

Yeah, I'm specially looking for those stat buff spells for my Item creation feats. The thing that annoy me is that scrolls don't say if they are divine or arcane. Funny thing is, I created a bull strenght scroll with my druid and gave it to my wizard, he can use the scroll but he can't copy it into his spellbook. Sigh, guess I'm spoiled by BG, IWD and NWN where I always ended up with tons of scrolls.

Heh. I have an easy way to differentiate divine and arcane scrolls. I have Spuignor, who automatically takes all arcane scrolls from the loot, leaving only divine. Of course, Spuignor then sells them to the blacksmith. idiot, idiot spuignor.

Oh, something I've found. A small bug.

Spoiler

When you're bartering with a merchant, if the NPC follower doesn't sell his items and you have to do it manually, you can instead give them to your other party members. And yes, this includes the NPC's money too. (Well most of it. Furnok wouldn't hand over his silver or gold, but his copper and platinum I got. Mmm 139 platinum pieces. It was an emergency, fallen paladin, 3000 gold atonement. HAd to get the money somehow!)

Spoiler put on in case some people don't want to know of the Bug.