The biggest (and coolest) miniature ever!!!

[Gospog]

Thanks, Pogre. I am glad that you see where I am coming from.

It's not End Of The World or Life Ruining type stuff, but I'm not about to give these guys any of the thousands of dollars I spend on mini's each year.

So anyway, thanks for listening.

Now, that female torchbearer sculpt, I might pick up...
Is it resin or metal?

-Tom

 

[JVisgaitis]

I wonder if people would defend WOTC/TSR if they changed the rules for the setting search after receiving the submissions?

No, but its a different circumstance. Let's say Wizards did hold the contest and five people responded. Then what? It was a similar thing for Mag Egos. I know it sucks and I really feel bad, but I've been in the same position before so I know what its like.

For example I laid down $250 for a Rackham Tarascus not too long ago.

You have a link for that? Sounds cool...

 

[Eego]

Okay, I feel the need to jump in here.

First off, thank you guys for the compliments and feedback. We are very proud of our little dragon and hope that you guys enjoy it as much as we do. If you are coming to Origins, come by and see it in person.

Now: In answer to Gospog and Pogre, We had planned on having a 1st-3rd place. However, we only received 3 entries. We were a brand new company with little presence in the market and even less money. Thus, the amount of entries our first contest attracted was rather small. It seemed unfair to me to declare a winner, then reward everyone just the same. So we simplified. However, I don't believe that Gospogs issue is over the rules change. I believe it is simply over the fact that he didn't win anything. After reviewing my correspondence with him, all of his comments were more complaining about the winner and why he won versus why we only had a 1st place winner.

The truth is two of the three entries were very close to the same level of quality, but the extra work done by the winner (sketch and wriet-up) made it easier for us to see his level of precision and ability to follow a concept and just made a better impression overall.

In the end, only having a 1st place winner may have been a bad call and for that I am sorry, but the winner was selected by the rules.

 

[Gospog]

In the end, only having a 1st place winner may have been a bad call and for that I am sorry

Apology accepted.

Please know that nothing I've ever said was meant to belittle the work done by the winner. He did a fine job and deserves the win.

And in my defense, no I am not just mad I didn't win something. As posted above, I really do spend thousands on mini's each year (just ask my hysterical wife!). If I really wanted my mini cast up that badly, I'd ship it off to jeff Valent and be done with it!

But I appreciate you standing up and saying that maybe you made a mistake with how you handled this. Maybe I made amistake with my excessive bitching.

Accept my apology in return. I will be perusing your online catalog in the near future.

-Tom

 

[helium3]

Thanks, Pogre. I am glad that you see where I am coming from.

It's not End Of The World or Life Ruining type stuff, but I'm not about to give these guys any of the thousands of dollars I spend on mini's each year.

So anyway, thanks for listening.

Now, that female torchbearer sculpt, I might pick up...
Is it resin or metal?

-Tom

I have a friend that let me see that miniature up close, and I'm pretty sure it's copper sheeting over a steel superstructure.

 

[Eego]

Apology accepted.


Accept my apology in return.
-Tom

Done and forgotten. Thank you

 

[frankthedm]

Now: In answer to Gospog and Pogre, We had planned on having a 1st-3rd place. However, we only received 3 entries.

Then you had your 1st, 2nd and 3rd place sculpts.

We were a brand new company with little presence in the market and even less money. Thus, the amount of entries our first contest attracted was rather small.

You should have taken that into account when you decided on the terms for the contest. Amature sculpters have even less presence in the market and often less money than small companies.

It seemed unfair to me to declare a winner, then reward everyone just the same. So we simplified.

The only unfairess is offering the top three entrant 25 casts of their sculpts and then balking when you only got the top 3. Sculpting a figure for a contest is a major investment of time, effort and skill.

In the end, only having a 1st place winner may have been a bad call and for that I am sorry, but the winner was selected by the rules.

Let me guess, you checked with your legal department on that?

But since Gospog is letting it go so will I now that I let it out of my system. Though now that your company is a bit larger and hopefully can afford it, you should comp the "runners up" a few minis .

BTW I really think the RottenEye is an awesome mini.

 

[knight_isa]

The problem for me with regard to a "mini" like this is that I could expect to use it, at best, once or twice in a campaign spanning years. So it's more of a show piece. I just can't drop that sort of money on a fig I'm not going to use, especially when I found a decent-looking plastic dragon that will serve perfectly well for a colossal mini at Toys'R'Us for six bucks.

QFT.

This isn't a dragon, but I think it works, too:

http://www.uschoice.net/knight_isa/itscolossaltoo.html

 

[Gospog]

Thanks for getting my back, Frank. In fact, you raise a lot of good points.

But it's water under the bridge and we are cool.

Eego was good enough to admit that he may have erred and I did the same. We move on.

I actually have vaugue plans of trying to re-sculpt the mini, now that I've been sculpting for a bit longer. It always seems to get bumped in favor of projects that I can use for my games right away, though.

Thanks again.

-Tom

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

When tactical board movement isnt sensible option, I see no point in using minis. Unless the dragon just sits in one spot to get wailed on, its useless (and even then, its useless, as minis are primarily to determine moves and line of sight). It makes far more sense to go to mech style terrain when cover becomes hills and huge buildings rather than some crates. I just dont have a use for anything really beyond huge size in an actual game. A colassal red dragon moves up to 80 inches a round BEFORE any type of speed increase. That means you need over 6 feet of map to fully accommodate the movement of a single round.