The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

[overgeeked]

this is pretty cool Meta researchers create AI that masters Diplomacy, tricking human players

Such a cool game. Perfect example of how the game doesn’t actually need rules to cover the central premise of the game. It’s called Diplomacy, it teaches diplomacy and realpolitik, and there are no rules about either in the game.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

If we can all predict how you'll post on any given thread where you appear, it might be time for you to log off and walk the dog.

My dog is named Bards Suck.

 

[payn]

this is pretty cool Meta researchers create AI that masters Diplomacy, tricking human players

The trickiest part is in the beginning. The game is most fluid then. Later it becomes pretty obvious who you should ally with and what moves to make. The beginning seems like the most challenging point. Yes, Diplomacy is a fantastic game.

 

[trappedslider]

This part makes me wonder what it would REALLY be like if they hadn't

Meta hopes other researchers can build on its code "in a responsible manner," and says it has taken steps toward detecting and removing "toxic messages in this new domain," which likely refers to dialog Cicero learned from the Internet texts it ingested—always a risk for large language models.{/quote]

If they REALLY wanted to see if they could fool humans they should leave those messages in.

 

[CleverNickName]

I almost created a thread titled, "Bards, Monks, and Other Rogue Subclasses" but stopped myself at the last minute.
Y'all aren't ready.

 

[overgeeked]

This part makes me wonder what it would REALLY be like if they hadn't

All the toxic bits of the web concentrated and turned up to 11. It wouldn’t have fooled people any more or less, it would only cause people to pay more or less attention.

 

[overgeeked]

I almost created a thread titled, "Bards, Monks, and Other Rogue Subclasses" but stopped myself at the last minute.
Y'all aren't ready.

You forgot rangers.

 

[CleverNickName]

You forgot rangers.

I'll do "Barbarians, Paladins, Rangers, and Other Fighter Subclasses" next time.

 

[overgeeked]

I'll do "Barbarians, Paladins, Rangers, and Other Fighter Subclasses" next time.

Nah. Rangers are forest rogues, not bow fighters.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I almost created a thread titled, "Bards, Monks, and Other Rogue Subclasses" but stopped myself at the last minute.
Y'all aren't ready.

You meant THIEF subclasses, didn't you?

Also, Bards aren't a subclass. They are an appendix class. What is an appendix class? A useless vestige that can be cut out of the game without any real loss.

 

[payn]

The only thing you can count on in life, death, taxes, and whiny ass internet posts about bards.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

The only thing you can count on in life, death, taxes, and whiny ass internet posts about bards.

 

[CleverNickName]

Nah. Rangers are forest rogues, not bow fighters.

Like I said, y'all aren't ready.

Paladins are just fighters who went to church. Once.
Barbarians are just angry fighters.
I considered for a moment whether the monk was actually a fighter, but settled on rogue because honestly? It isn't that good at fighting but I have felt robbed after playing one.

 

[overgeeked]

Like I said, y'all aren't ready.

Paladins are just fighters who went to church. Once.
Barbarians are just angry fighters.
I considered for a moment whether the monk was actually a fighter, but settled on rogue because honestly? It isn't that good at fighting but I have felt robbed after playing one.

Exactly. Rangers are forest rogues. You always feel robbed after playing one.

 

[prabe]

I considered for a moment whether the monk was actually a fighter, but settled on rogue because honestly? It isn't that good at fighting but I have felt robbed after playing one.

The monk--in 5e at least--is passable fighting defensively and as a striker, and so good at trivializing bosses it warps the game. IME and IMO, having played a monk and having one in both the campaigns I'm running.

 

[Gradine]

I thought about playing Diplomacy once but I decided I wanted to still have friends so...

 

[payn]

I thought about playing Diplomacy once but I decided I wanted to still have friends so...

Play with strangers!

 

[prabe]

I thought about playing Diplomacy once but I decided I wanted to still have friends so...

We have found that we and our friends are more likely to remain on friendly terms if we don't play competitive games.

 

[Gradine]

Play with strangers!

Diplomacy with strangers! Check all weapons at the door, please.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

We have found that we and our friends are more likely to remain on friendly terms if we don't play competitive games.

HA! Friends.

Friends are just enemies you haven't made yet.