The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

MarkB

Legend
Cross-talk in these forums reminds me of a fable.

A boy was out playing by the river and saw a snake trapped in a fishing net.
"Please, somebody help me!" the snake begged. "I'm drowning!"
"I don't know," the boy said. "Snakes are dangerous."
"But I'm a good snake," the reptile replied.
"I don't know about that," the boy hesitated. "My brother says snakes are poisonous."
"I'm a nice snake," the snake said. "I've never bitten anyone before!"
"Oh?" the boy said. "Well, I suppose that is very nice of you."
"I promise not to bite you if you'll help me," the snake said, tears in its beady eyes.
So the boy agreed to help the snake. But as soon as the snake was free from the net, it bit the boy on the ankle!
"Ouch!" the boy cried. "You said you were nice! You lied to me!"
"Don't blame me," the snake said coolly. "You knew I was a snake the moment you laid eyes on me."
 

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Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
Look, I know woke culture is in full swing right now, with Star Trek and Pink Floyd and other franchises going full "woke," but I want people to remember the traditional values of these franchises: capitalism, masulinity, and violence. Will no one think of the violence?
Truest quote I've ever read was from a while back.

"Racist Star Wars fans sadden me. Racist Star Trek fans confuse me."
 


RealAlHazred

Frumious Flumph
Truest quote I've ever read was from a while back.

"Racist Star Wars fans sadden me. Racist Star Trek fans confuse me."
It's like that Star Trek episode from the original series, with the half-white guy and the half-black guy -- the moral (which a lot of people I've spoken to apparently didn't understand) was "Violence solves all problems." If you didn't get that, you didn't get Star Trek.
 

Truest quote I've ever read was from a while back.

"Racist Star Wars fans sadden me. Racist Star Trek fans confuse me."

My parents are the biggest Star Trek fans I know. ToS fans from when it originally aired, loyal through the years. My father was upset about ST:Disco getting too political and liberal.
 



Mad_Jack

Hero

<looks at avatar>

Tell me about it... :-S



In other news, there's legislation being proposed to make pizza the state food of Connecticut...
Apparently, there's no other state claiming pizza as its official food, and CT doesn't currently have one.
Thankfully, the bill appears to be non-specific about which kind of pizza...

(For those that don't know, the New Haven pizza scene is a pretty big thing around here - if you're looking to get into a fistfight over pizza, there are people there who will happily oblige you...)
 
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RealAlHazred

Frumious Flumph
Fans in general confuse me
Is it the repetitive patterns? The way they always come around again and again to the same point? The way they stay still but are constantly in motion?

Wait, are we talking about the same fans?
GIF by Chris Gannon
 


Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Tangent:

I saw one of those "3D Hologram" fans for the first time over break. That was pretty cool. (To see walking by for a few seconds).

Weirdly, I also saw a 3D Hologram last week.

In my case, however, it was simply because I was misunderstanding the latest hot trends. Apparently, it's microsdosing. Not, as I previously thought, macrodosing.

The more you learn!
 

Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
Is it awful that I want this OGL nonsense to work out well in the end? Like... I like Dungeons & Dragons. But there definitely seems to be a certain eagerness to watch Wizards implode from this; and I don't really think that's a good thing.

If the only difference between between the OGL 1.0 and OGL 2.0 is "this is exactly the same, except Nazis can naughty word off"... what's the problem?
 

RealAlHazred

Frumious Flumph
If the only difference between between the OGL 1.0 and OGL 2.0 is "this is exactly the same, except Nazis can naughty word off"... what's the problem?
The thing that bothers me is Section 7(b)(i), which allows WOTC to terminate OGL 1.2 with a licensee without any notice or opportunity to cure or notice if the licensee's works include material that is "harmful, discriminatory, illegal, obscene, or harassing," or the licensee "engage
in conduct that is harmful, discriminatory, illegal, obscene, or harassing." WOTC has the "sole right to decide what conduct or content is hateful," and the licensee agrees not to challenge any determination. Is gender affirming care obscene? Discriminatory? A critic would say it is "harmful." Would you trust that guy to decide, unilaterally with no ability to challenge the ruling, what is harmful, discriminatory, or obscene? I sure don't.

On the other hand, many people who published works under the OGL 1.0 are no longer with us. When (not if) they deauthorize the 1.0 OGL, all of those works will be lost in time, like tears in rain, with no authority to reissue them.[/S]
 


Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Is it awful that I want this OGL nonsense to work out well in the end? Like... I like Dungeons & Dragons. But there definitely seems to be a certain eagerness to watch Wizards implode from this; and I don't really think that's a good thing.

As I have mentioned a few times, it has been noticeable that the people that are most vocal and persistent about this issue ... and also those that are most strident in their criticisms ... are mostly the people who have largely abandoned 5e and WoTC previously.

That's not to say that this isn't a serious issue (especially for smaller 3PPs!), or that there aren't people who love 5e who have serious reservations about the way WoTC is handling this, but it has been noticeable to see some commenters (who have not been here for a while, or have recently returned after a long hiatus, or who have a well-deserved reputation for not playing or enjoying 5e) who seem particularly partial to keep fanning the flames.

All that, plus I am distinctly uncomfortable with the extent to which people are willing to push this.

(IMO, YMMV, etc.)
 




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