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So, some real talk right down to earth in a language that everybody here can easily understand -- There are numerous small towns and cities in Illinois and neighborhoods in Chicago, that each have better pizza -from among the three true varieties: stuffed, deep dish, and tavern style - than all of the floppy greased cardboard joints in NYC and strange topping extravaganzas in NZ combined.

Yeah, well, cherrypick the best your small towns have to the worst of the cities, and you can make it sound good, sure.

True story - back when my wife and I were pinching pennies to get by, a friend gifted us with a trip to NYC to see Sleep No More. Another friend asked to meet up with us, and take us to "the best meal we could have in NYC". Now, this guy was a lawyer, with family money, having grown up in one of the best parts of Manhattan. We were pretty sure this guy knew the kind of places where they don't put prices on the menu, and if you have to ask, you can't afford it. We had no idea how we were going to afford this meal.

He took us on a wonderful stroll along several blocks of Manhattan (it was a glorious late spring evening), and we ended up at a hipster hole-in-the-wall pizza joint, with... normal pizza prices. And that pizza was truly magnificent. Sure, some of the toppings were hipster - duck confit and goat cheese with a balsamic drizzle, for example. But their sausage and pepperoni were savory perfection. There are a lot of places that do not understand how to do a thin, crisp crust on a pizza, but this place did, and it was a revelation, a combination of crunch and chew I had never experienced before.

So, you can stuff your parochial views on pizza in a calzone and eat it - good food is good food, and if you draw lines and borders around your acceptable pizza forms, you miss out.
 

Yeah, well, cherrypick the best your small towns have to the worst of the cities, and you can make it sound good, sure.

True story - back when my wife and I were pinching pennies to get by, a friend gifted us with a trip to NYC to see Sleep No More. Another friend asked to meet up with us, and take us to "the best meal we could have in NYC". Now, this guy was a lawyer, with family money, having grown up in one of the best parts of Manhattan. We were pretty sure this guy knew the kind of places where they don't put prices on the menu, and if you have to ask, you can't afford it. We had no idea how we were going to afford this meal.

He took us on a wonderful stroll along several blocks of Manhattan (it was a glorious late spring evening), and we ended up at a hipster hole-in-the-wall pizza joint, with... normal pizza prices. And that pizza was truly magnificent. Sure, some of the toppings were hipster - duck confit and goat cheese with a balsamic drizzle, for example. But their sausage and pepperoni were savory perfection. There are a lot of places that do not understand how to do a thin, crisp crust on a pizza, but this place did, and it was a revelation, a combination of crunch and chew I had never experienced before.

So, you can stuff your parochial views on pizza in a calzone and eat it - good food is good food, and if you draw lines and borders around your acceptable pizza forms, you miss out.

I've had pizza in NYC that I was very happy with too (maybe it's partially the atmosphere of the old church it is in, but I often hit John's of Time Square when I'm up there).

Do you remember which joint it was? (Looking for recommendations next time we make it up there). Was the whole crust crisp, or just the edge?

Anyway, my particular one-true wayism was about the styles of pizza the two cities mostly hold up as a thing (ole floppy vs. what ole floppy's proponents call a casserole) and not all of the pizza places in either one.
 

All this pizza rivalry talk is starting to remind me of the Juicy Lucy battles here in the Twin Cities.

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All this pizza rivalry talk is starting to remind me of the Juicy Lucy battles here in the Twin Cities.

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Oooh. How have I never heard of this. (Hit's google). There's a place in NC that does them too that I might actually get by. I'm guessing the MN places don't have pimento cheese on the menu? I wonder if the NC one does. I wonder if I should just try making one at home?
 

Oooh. How have I never heard of this. (Hit's google). There's a place in NC that does them too that I might actually get by. I'm guessing the MN places don't have pimento cheese on the menu? I wonder if the NC one does. I wonder if I should just try making one at home?
The originals used cheddar and American cheese, but there are tons of variety now. Blue cheese and Jalapeno, Swiss and mushroom, etc..

Here the 5-8 used cheddar and is often said to be in contention for originating the Juicy Lucy, but Matts in South MPLS also lays a claim on the honor they call the Jucy Lucy.

Pro tip; Let it sit for a min. I know, I know you want to dig in, but that cheese is like molten lava during the first bite!
 

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