The last sentence of Chameleon-Rogue Utility 6

[Wednesday Boy]

After reading another thread, I realized that I may have been using the Rogue Utility power Chameleon incorrectly.

When you are hidden and lose cover or concealment from an enemy Chameleon lets you use an Immediate Interrupt to make a Stealth check. You stay hidden from the enemy if your check beats its passive Perception.

The last sentence says "Until the end of your next turn, you can remain hidden without needing any cover or concealment." I always interpreted this as referring to only the triggering enemy but the other thread implied that it was as written--you remain hidden in general.

It seems like the different interpretations drastically changes the usefulness of the power. I didn't see any errata for it but is anyone aware if it has been clarified at all? Thanks for the help!!!

 

[the Jester]

Heh... I don't know about errata, but we were using this wrong in my campaign for somewhere around 10 levels!

It's an immediate action, which means you cannot use it on your turn. I was letting the dwarven cook (er, rogue) get away with it consistently since 6th level, and didn't realize until after I moved and a player in my new game was going to take it that we were doing it wrong!

 

[Wednesday Boy]

Heh, I know what you mean. It took me a while to clue in that the Immediate part of it made it useful only once until your next turn.

 

[Aulirophile]

You remain hidden from all enemies.

 

[Wednesday Boy]

You remain hidden from all enemies.

Cool, thanks for the clarification!

 

[Saeviomagy]

It's a bit complicated: is hidden a state that a character occupies that can be negated on an individual basis, or is "hidden from" something that a character applies to specific enemies?

Almost all the text refers to hidden as a state that a character occupies: but that doesn't really work well in-game - there will be situations where a character has total cover/concealment against specific foes, but not others, which would indicate that he only ever becomes hidden against specific foes.

I guess it's one of those areas that you as a DM need to define on your own, and it depends almost entirely on whether you want chameleon to be a powerful utility or a weak one. If it's only good against the triggering foe, then it will only rarely be of much use.