The mandalorian [Spoilers]

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okay so next year we don't get him the "Worlds best dad" mug

 

[cbwjm]

Heck no. Feeding and sheltering a child does not make one a good dad. That's just basic level of care you give to your pet fish. And that's largely the only thing he does with baby Yoda. But also puts him in imminent harm all the time. And has he ever actually shown love to him? Or kindness? Those things are critical to a baby/toddler from anyone, let alone someone in a father figure role lol.

He has shown love and kindness to Lil' Yo.

 

[Khelon Testudo]

Can you give an example? Although I think they mean affection, and I don't recall any of that. Does the Tyke have nappies? Does the Mando change them?

 

[MarkB]

Can you give an example? Although I think they mean affection, and I don't recall any of that. Does the Tyke have nappies? Does the Mando change them?

Him giving the kid the knob from the control lever is the obvious example.

But one thing to bear in mind is that he is very much not trying to become the kid's father. He's trying to find a good home for him and leave him there. He knows very well that the deeper the bond they form in the meantime, the more painful it will be for both of them when that day comes.

 

[cbwjm]

Can you give an example? Although I think they mean affection, and I don't recall any of that. Does the Tyke have nappies? Does the Mando change them?

Why would they show that in the series? You don't need to show every mundane thing in the show. There are examples of him showing affection to Lil' yo in the show, rewatch the show, you'll see them. It's probably something that is difficult for him to do considering his upbringing as a Mandalorian. I get the feeling that they aren't that big on feels.

 

[Khelon Testudo]

Him giving the kid the knob from the control lever is the obvious example.

But one thing to bear in mind is that he is very much not trying to become the kid's father. He's trying to find a good home for him and leave him there. He knows very well that the deeper the bond they form in the meantime, the more painful it will be for both of them when that day comes.

That's fair. But if he doesn't either find a home for the Tyke, or start becoming involved as a parent, he could end up doing damage. Given the latest episode, I think this is coming to a crunch in the story.

 

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Lucasfilm executive defends The Mandalorian 's controversial Baby Yoda moment

Lucasfilm creative art manager Phil Szostak tweeted a defense of that controversial Baby Yoda moment in season 2 of 'The Mandalorian.'

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I need that pop!

 

[Sacrosanct]

Him giving the kid the knob from the control lever is the obvious example.

giving a kid a toy does not a good father make. and that was the statement I was disagreeing with. There hasn't been a single example of Mando being an actual good, or even decent, father figure by showing closeness, kindness, encouragement, and love. If the show doesn't think showing that is important because they aren't trying to portray him as a father, that's one thing and I get it. But then one could not make the statement that Mando is a good adoptive father.

anyone who thinks treating a kid with the same effort you'd treat your pet fish makes you a good father, then I hope they don't have kids of their own for the kids' sake.

 

[MarkB]

giving a kid a toy does not a good father make. and that was the statement I was disagreeing with. There hasn't been a single example of Mando being an actual good, or even decent, father figure by showing closeness, kindness, encouragement, and love. If the show doesn't think showing that is important because they aren't trying to portray him as a father, that's one thing and I get it. But then one could not make the statement that Mando is a good adoptive father.

Yeah, but my point is that I think he's trying (and failing) to avoid creating that level of bond with the kid, specifically because he doesn't trust himself to be someone's father.

anyone who thinks treating a kid with the same effort you'd treat your pet fish makes you a good father, then I hope they don't have kids of their own for the kids' sake.

I don't know many people who'd be willing to take on an entire town twice over and embark on an extended quest purely for the sake of their pet fish. Some, but not many.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Yeah, but my point is that I think he's trying (and failing) to avoid creating that level of bond with the kid, specifically because he doesn't trust himself to be someone's father.

I don't know many people who'd be willing to take on an entire town twice over and embark on an extended quest purely for the sake of their pet fish. Some, but not many.

Setting aside how he did much of that not because he had a special caring for baby yoda, but acted like it was part of the mission and/or because of the far reaching implications...

Ah, the famous scenario:

"I'd take a bullet for my kid without question. Nothing I wouldn't do for my kid."
"Ok, not asking that, just asking why don't you spend some quality time with them once in a while? You know, play a game with them, hold them when they're sad, tell them how much you love them? How about doing literally any of that? It's super easy to say you'd do something like taking a bullet because that requires no effort or is the "macho thing" to do. Being a good parent means doing the effort every day, even for the small stuff. Especially for the small stuff. Because I guarantee that kid won't grow up thinking, "Man, my dad would take a bullet for me.", but will think "why didn't my dad want anything to do with me or love me?"

Judging how good a dad is by how much tough guy stuff he does, while ignore the empathy, compassion, and all the little day to day stuff is what breeds toxic masculinity and perpetuates those cycles. There have been studies about this, and is a huge factor as to why men have problems expressing emotion in a healthy way when they get older.