D&D (2024) The Multiverse in the 2024 Players Handbook

[mamba]

The less generic the "implied setting" of D&D is, the less valuable the game is overall. They should presenting every setting aspect as obviously and blatantly an example.

don’t the two sentences contradict each other?

 

[Nobleshield]

Am I the only one who hates this multiverse stuff? That's the sort of junk that leads to shoehorning in everything in a book to every setting whether or not it makes sense.

 

[Azzy]

Am I the only one who hates this multiverse stuff? That's the sort of junk that leads to shoehorning in everything in a book to every setting whether or not it makes sense.

That ship sailed in the 70s.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

so are the planes as far as I am concerned

I agree, the DMG is where they are going to be detailed.

 

[ART!]

Why, what deities the world has is decided by the DM.

Like a player deciding that Lathander sounds like a good god for them, doesn't really work out if the DM's game is in a world that does not feature Lathander.

"...but check with your DM." Problem solved. But give the players something to work with. Maybe list some examples - from WOTC's own settings, and historical deities - with each domain. The DMG can elaborate on any of that, of course.

Also: I'm used to a different style of play, I guess. Unless the setting is a very narrow genre or setting, most games I've played in just let the players choose a deity from wherever and we just run with it.

 

[Epic Meepo]

My preferred lore is late 2e, for all setting that existed at the time (I don't have a real stake in settings that came later, like Eberron). I have made an exception for 4e's Feywild and Shadowfell (the latter being just a re-named Demiplane of Shadow as far as I'm concerned). 3e didn't change that status quo enough for me to care, and other than the aforementioned exception, I ignored 4e's lore or wrote it off as a different setting. PoLand actually works great for me if I think of it that way.

I was able to pretend things hadn't changed much for the early years of 5e as well (although I never liked most of their added lore). However, when I heard that they longer felt any narrative obligation to at least try to hold to canon, and followed that up with the IMO atrocious (from a lore perspective) VRGtR and the less so but still troubling Spelljammer and Dragonlance books, I decided I no longer had any desire to chase that comet. This luckily coincided with the development of Level Up, giving me an escape vector on which I could sell my players.

Incidentally, the Feywild is just a re-named Plane of Faerie, which was introduced in 3e.

 

[Micah Sweet]

"...but check with your DM." Problem solved. But give the players something to work with. Maybe list some examples - from WOTC's own settings, and historical deities - with each domain. The DMG can elaborate on any of that, of course.

Also: I'm used to a different style of play, I guess. Unless the setting is a very narrow genre or setting, most games I've played in just let the players choose a deity from wherever and we just run with it.

They did just that in 5.0, with examples from different settings and history provided in the cleric domain descriptions.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Incidentally, the Feywild is just a re-named Plane of Faerie, which was introduced in 3e.

Good point. I'd forgotten about that. We're back to me not needing 4e at all then.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

3e Manual of the Planes introduced some interesting new ideas. I loved the potential concept of the plane of the mirrors, where you could recycle the rich creepepaste mythology about backrooms and liminal spaces.

How should be a third echo-plane style "Feywild" or "Shadowfell"? Maybe something like the spirit-realm from Kara-Tur.

Other idea is the wood elemental plane mixed with a "world tree" used to travel between planes.

 

[Chaltab]

Good point. I'd forgotten about that. We're back to me not needing 4e at all then.

Okay but Counterpoint, 4E is cool.