The "Torment a Historian" movie playlist thread

[nedjer]

Half of the mystique surrounding Arthur seems to come from his mythical roots. It does seem safe to say that whatever/ whoever the original, much of the 'movie Arthur' draws on ideas/ themes introduced after Gutenburg got printing.

Tennyson's Morte d'Arthur and Idylls of the Kings are probably the greatest influence, because it was the first really widely distributed version and hooked into the Victorian's obsession with an idealised antiquity. Donnelly's Atlantis, pre-Raphaelite art, Tennyson, etc . . . all fed a hugely patronising desire to justify imperialism, (and empire-building), as righteous, 'godly' and clearly necessary for producing the 'golden eras' delivered by benign monarchies. Kind of monarchies as 'points of light'.

Anyway, to get to the point, the University of Rochester's Camelot Project has a great site about all things Arthurian, HERE. There's another Camelot Project site out there; populated by material from spangleheads like David Icke - possibly best avoided, though that won't be necessary for long, as they're apparently accurately predicting the end of the world shortly

 

[Morrus]

Easily. Robin hood lost his accent when he fought in the crusades as a result of Saladin's men taking it from Robin during his captivity.

What, a person who has his "British Accent" removed then sounds like an American?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

It's called Foreign Accent Syndrome, and since it can be triggered by head trauma, heroic types are probably more likely to have it...though explaining how one gets an accent from a culture that hasn't arisen yet is a bit trickier.

Perhaps a hot tub or a police box are involved?

 

[jonesy]

Perhaps a hot tub or a police box are involved?

Hot tub? Tell me more, kind sir.

 

[drothgery]

What, a person who has his "British Accent" removed then sounds like an American?

If you speak English without an accent, you sound like you're from the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio. Everyone knows this .

 

[Morrus]

If you speak English without an accent, you sound like you're from the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio. Everyone knows this .

Don't be silly. If you speak English without an accent, you sound exactly like me!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Hot tub? Tell me more, kind sir.

Hop in a Hot Tub Time Machine, go to the future, get a head injury that causes Foreign Accent Syndrome, then return to your normal adventuring life.

 

[Dragonwriter]

Hop in a Hot Tub Time Machine, go to the future, get a head injury that causes Foreign Accent Syndrome, then return to your normal adventuring life.

And so we are back to this:

Just a thought- we're off to a good start: we should use this thread to make a sci/fant treatment of some historical account of a famous war and pitch the script to Uwe Boll.

With a cross of Hot Tub Time Machine and Robin Hood... Wow.

It's called Foreign Accent Syndrome, and since it can be triggered by head trauma, heroic types are probably more likely to have it...though explaining how one gets an accent from a culture that hasn't arisen yet is a bi trickier.

Again, possible, but there is no mention of a head injury in the movie. And such a syndrome is not likely to be known to the average person watching the movie...

Easily. Robin hood lost his accent when he fought in the crusades as a result of Saladin's men taking it from Robin during his captivity.

Why didn't they take it from his buddy, too? Peter, the boyhood friend... Or were they all full up on their foreign accent collection?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Again, possible, but there is no mention of a head injury in the movie.

They didn't need to- it happened in childhood, before the events of the film.

Or afterwards, technically, if a Hot Tub Time Machine is involved.

Hey, interesting idea: Robin Hood gets in a Hot Tub Time Machine, sees any American Robin Hood movie, gets drunk, hits head, develops FAS (losing his accent) and when he returns, takes up the cause of stealing from the rich to give to the poor!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Just to allay any fears such as Dragonwriter may be harboring at this point: while I do have the skills to force any kinds of plot points together into a storyline as well as anyone in Hollywood, my self-respect and love of the underlying stories that Hollywood routinely screws up keeps me from doing so.








...for now.