Todd Lockwood Laid Off By WOTC! (thread necromancy)

[LcKedovan]

Now people are upset that a corporation does not keep artsists on staff. NOWHERE in the industry are artists kept on staff. Generally, in any artistic endeavor, artists are not kept on staff. Authors, actors, singers, visual artists are 99% of the time independent contractors.

Funny, Todd expresses quite the opposite in a discussion about establishing IP and studio artists in his thread in the Publisher's forum.

-W.

 

[hong]

Funny, Todd expresses quite the opposite in a discussion about establishing IP and studio artists in his thread in the Publisher's forum.

Like I said in the other thread, worst comes to worst, he could always do character portraits for us. I think the going rate is USD20 per pic. I'm sure he could survive on that.

But then noone knows who Toddlockwood is, so I think he should do a few gratis ones just so we can check out his work. Why, he might have a thing for spikey armour or something.


Hong "and that simply would not do" Ooi

 

[Horacio]

/me beats hong witha stick, again

You want a free pic, silly Austr(al)ian, and that's not fair. You'll have to pay for it

I hope Mr. Lockwood won't have any problems finding a good job. In fact, I'm fairly sure he will find it rather quickly, his talent is too high to be left unused.

 

[hong]

Hey, I'm sure that Todd won't have much trouble finding work. He and Sam Wood basically created the 3E look, after all. How would you like to have that on your resume?

But if he ever does find he has some free time on the side, I'm willing to shell out USD20 per pic. Or maybe a bit more.

 

[Horacio]

But if he ever does find he has some free time on the side, I'm willing to shell out USD20 per pic. Or maybe a bit more.

Me too of course. I wouldn't mind spending 25€, maybe even 30€.

 

[hellbender]

I still find all this lament strange.


Now people are upset that a corporation does not keep artsists on staff. NOWHERE in the industry are artists kept on staff. Generally, in any artistic endeavor, artists are not kept on staff. Authors, actors, singers, visual artists are 99% of the time independent contractors.

Actually, that is not entirely true. AEG does have staff artists as well as freelancers, and they are somewhere in the rpg world.

Freelancing over in-house is also debatable. Freelancers generally make more, but there is no company security (obviously). Freelancers can take as many jobs as they can handle and (sometimes) in-house are restricted by contract as to how much art they can produce in a certain market.

I have never been in-house, but it must be easier to get paid than freelancing, where you sometimes need to chase down your check.

hellbender

 

[LcKedovan]

Hey, I'm sure that Todd won't have much trouble finding work. He and Sam Wood basically created the 3E look, after all. How would you like to have that on your resume?

But if he ever does find he has some free time on the side, I'm willing to shell out USD20 per pic. Or maybe a bit more.

Hey Hong, check out the other thread for your new character pic!!

-Will

 

[Horacio]

Hey Hong, check out the other thread for your new character pic!!

-Will

What other thread?

 

[LcKedovan]

As you discovered, the one in the Publisher forum

-W.

 

[Desdichado]

I must say that this whole business is just sad. Really sad. As for the overall business practice of "outsourcing"--yeah, I've read about it. It's been a long time coming, gradually making its way through the American economy. Just like hiring "temp" workers. Yeah, there can be some legitimate need for "temp" workers, but far more often, it seems that companies merely attempt to find ways to get rid of all the long-standing permanent employees who actually get paid good salaries and have benefits, as well as worker's protections and rights, in favor of a pool of half-to-semi-trained "temps" that do work at half the quality, for half the pay, with fewer benefits and few to non-existent rights. The employer can much easier get rid of temps, at a moment's notice, and not have to actually concern themselves with grievances Human Resource Departments, unlawful firing, and many other rights and protections, because "temps" have no rights. A boss can get rid of them with one simple phone-call, merely saying that the person in question "just isn't working out"--that afternoon, the temp returns to the "temp" pool, and the next morning, a whole new temp arrives.

I'm sure this is very industry specific, but this does not at all represent what happens in my industry with temps. Which we do use quite extensively, I might add. But all of our "temps" come from temp agencies, which cover benefits and even salary for them, even when they're not working. In fact, these temps are often on a particular job longer than regular salaried employees and make as much money (including benefits) as salaried employees do. Many temps have no wish to move into salaried for the same flexibility that you say only the contracting company has.