Twin Infinities OOC

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Bront said:
There's some info on it in this thread (I know I asked about 10 pages ago or so and got an answer). Also, its in the zip file in the encyclopedia.

Thanks, I'd forgotten about that.

Keia said:
That first psion seems rather overpowered, Neophyte. Long range is outstanding for a 2nd level power, the 6d6 is overly good, and the 2d6 per point of augment is outstanding as well. Ranged touch attacks are notoriously easy to achieve. The disadvantage is almost non-existent with the vigor power and the various healing abilities of certain psions.

Maybe a 4th level power . . .

Just my opinion . . . having played and gm'ed my fair share of psions.

Keia

You're right, I don't know what I was thinking. It's almost like Disintegrate, with a pretty minor drawback.

Brother Shatterstone said:
Looking at it from a group standpoint… Not that I’m forcing RA to make us into a single 6th level group… ;)

A fighter takes damage but has no trouble finding healing cause of the abilities of the cleric in the party.

You're right, but I'm not sure we have a cleric in the group... Even so, perhaps I could make the damage to the caster healable only trough normal resting and not by any magical means, and make it ignore temporary HPs and always do real damage to the caster, but that might cause too much accounting.


Rystil Arden said:
Hiya, I'm back :)

Siphon Power doesn't actually just take energy from plants, it actually sucks away the lifeforce from nature and a planet itself, so you can't target plant-creatures or even, for instance, carry around trees in a bag of holding to use.

Draconic Pet--a Wyrmling Black is possible, as a Spiked Felldrake (barely, the ECL limit--not CR, ECL--is 8). Very soon you could get a Dragonel, which are cool.

The first power is too strong--it starts off very high and augments too quickly--I actually by random chance had a GM who gave my Vigour-using Psion a magic dagger that did the same thing last Saturday (talk about a weird coincidence), and I mopped the floor in melee while losing out on almost nothing thanks to my Vigour-buffer :)

#2 seems fair, and #3 the mechanic is a bit clunky, but it seems like a neat concept and I think we could make it work.

So a Dragonlord doesn't actually have to be surrounded by greenery to be able to Siphon power, it's enough that he's in connection with a planet? Then spell #2 is pretty much moot.

About spell #1, I could make the damage to the caster healable only trough normal resting and not by any magical means, and make it ignore temporary HPs and always do real damage to the caster, but that might cause too much accounting. It would still be powerful, but not something that would be cast all day.

Spell #3 is my favorite so I'm glad you like it :). With a manifesting time of one hour, range of Touch, would it be balanced to allow it to restore 1 psp per drained hp with a maximum of 50 HPs drained/manifesting, if it was a 3rd level power? There would be no save (or there would be a Fort save (?)), but SR would still apply.
Augmentation for 2 points would reduce the manifesting time by one category, from Hour to 10 minutes to minute to full round to standard action.
Or
Augmentation would increase the maximum hps drained by 10 per point.

It's useful, but limited. By the time and level it's manifestable in combat there are other powers just as useful and far more damaging, besides I don't imagine Dragonlords run out of psps that often. ;)

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Another question:

A breastplate of Rowaini Quicksteel costs 4500 according to the rules, but how much does a Fullplate cost?
 
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Rystil Arden said:
Sure--I think your original cohort is a much cooler concept, but if you're looking, I've found that you want something just barely under a Gargoyle (Gargoyle misses it by being too strong by 1, but you need something that has +4 or higher LA and 4 or fewer HD :))

Concepts are only cool if they don't die... You start adding to the number of party members and the encounters have to become stronger. :\
 

Nephtys said:
You're right, but I'm not sure we have a cleric in the group... Even so, perhaps I could make the damage to the caster healable only trough normal resting and not by any magical means, and make it ignore temporary HPs and always do real damage to the caster, but that might cause too much accounting.

Or it will get you killed... Non-Magical healing is only one or two HP a day.
 



Nephtys said:
Thanks, I'd forgotten about that.



You're right, I don't know what I was thinking. It's almost like Disintegrate, with a pretty minor drawback.



You're right, but I'm not sure we have a cleric in the group... Even so, perhaps I could make the damage to the caster healable only trough normal resting and not by any magical means, and make it ignore temporary HPs and always do real damage to the caster, but that might cause too much accounting.




So a Dragonlord doesn't actually have to be surrounded by greenery to be able to Siphon power, it's enough that he's in connection with a planet? Then spell #2 is pretty much moot.

About spell #1, I could make the damage to the caster healable only trough normal resting and not by any magical means, and make it ignore temporary HPs and always do real damage to the caster, but that might cause too much accounting. It would still be powerful, but not something that would be cast all day.

Spell #3 is my favorite so I'm glad you like it :). With a manifesting time of one hour, range of Touch, would it be balanced to allow it to restore 1 psp per drained hp with a maximum of 50 HPs drained/manifesting, if it was a 3rd level power? There would be no save (or there would be a Fort save (?)), but SR would still apply.
Augmentation for 2 points would reduce the manifesting time by one category, from Hour to 10 minutes to minute to full round to standard action.
Or
Augmentation would increase the maximum hps drained by 10 per point.

It's useful, but limited. By the time and level it's manifestable in combat there are other powers just as useful and far more damaging, besides I don't imagine Dragonlords run out of psps that often. ;)

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Another question:

A breastplate of Rowaini Quicksteel costs 4500 according to the rules, but how much does a Fullplate cost?
So a Dragonlord doesn't actually have to be surrounded by greenery to be able to Siphon power, it's enough that he's in connection with a planet? Then spell #2 is pretty much moot.
Well, you need a spot on the planet that has strong lifeforce, which is indicated by the symbiotic bond with the plants, so you do need the plants, but its not the plants that you are draining, if that makes any sense :)

Spell #3 is my favorite so I'm glad you like it . With a manifesting time of one hour, range of Touch, would it be balanced to allow it to restore 1 psp per drained hp with a maximum of 50 HPs drained/manifesting, if it was a 3rd level power? There would be no save (or there would be a Fort save (?)), but SR would still apply.

That's a lot of PsP drain. Make it a level 4 Power and limit the Drain to 2 PP per manifester level (dealing 1d6 damage for each PP gained). Remember, even if the gain is small, if you are gaining anything at all, you can just keep casting it over and over again and eventually get back all your PP, which is why there needs to be a much stricter limit ;)
 

unleashed said:
Well I'm hoping my Lacerta Shaman has that covered. ;)
I got a hunderd charges of cure light wounds also...

RA, hey followers... It seems I get them. Now I guess I could use them to keep my cohort safe but I'm not sure if they really fit in with my concept.

Is their anyway I could trade them in for being able to beak the level 2 barrier between PC and cohort to 1 level? (making her 5th level.)

Her negative –1 con modifier has me scared but it was honest to the concept. :\
 


Brother Shatterstone said:
Or it will get you killed... Non-Magical healing is only one or two HP a day.

That's the point with the spell, it's something you use in an emergency not toss around all day. It inflicts a lot of dice, but that's strikes both ways. It's quite painful for the caster, and also antithetical for a Dragonlord who are used to sacrificing others in pursuit of power not themselves.

unleashed said:
Well I'm hoping my Lacerta Shaman has that covered. ;)

I'm hoping your shaman doesn't mind my Dragonlord's take on gardening... What do you say? Live and let live? There's a lot of nature out there, who cares about a handful of trees? :D
 

Nephtys said:
I'm hoping your shaman doesn't mind my Dragonlord's take on gardening... What do you say? Live and let live? There's a lot of nature out there, who cares about a handful of trees? :D

I can't answer for unleashed but I can assure you my nymph will be greatly upset if you destroy the natural beauty of the world and what upsets her usually upsets Slagg. :]
 

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