Kevin Perrine
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Keia said:
I would love the Excel sheet if you have access to use it.
-kev-
ULTIMATE Secret Wars *CLOSED*
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I would love the Excel sheet if you have access to use it.
-kev-
Kevin Perrine
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the state of things to come
Hey all,
I just finished replying to all the emails that I've recieved about character PLs and all the ones that have sent me stats. For the most part everything looks great so far.
Refer back to the original post in this thread to see my UPDATES on character status. (current to 2pm 6/25/04 as of this post)
If you haven't received email from me - I've accidentallly overlooked it and I apologize. I've been out of the office (on a company cruise) and or running my Table Top RPG group since Tuesday, and am just now getting organized for the Secret War again.
Be thinking about how you plan to introduce your hero. The game will BEGIN in the normal world setting on a normal day in the life of your characters... I'd like to see one or more posts describing where your character is and such in the first opening of the game... so think about it.
I will be beginning the Secret War story thread soon but...
The actual SECRET WAR event will not officially begin for another week or so, since we're still gathering characters and players (we need more Ultimates!!)...
thanks
any questions/thoughts??
-kev-
Hey all,
I just finished replying to all the emails that I've recieved about character PLs and all the ones that have sent me stats. For the most part everything looks great so far.
Refer back to the original post in this thread to see my UPDATES on character status. (current to 2pm 6/25/04 as of this post)
If you haven't received email from me - I've accidentallly overlooked it and I apologize. I've been out of the office (on a company cruise) and or running my Table Top RPG group since Tuesday, and am just now getting organized for the Secret War again.
Be thinking about how you plan to introduce your hero. The game will BEGIN in the normal world setting on a normal day in the life of your characters... I'd like to see one or more posts describing where your character is and such in the first opening of the game... so think about it.
I will be beginning the Secret War story thread soon but...
The actual SECRET WAR event will not officially begin for another week or so, since we're still gathering characters and players (we need more Ultimates!!)...
thanks
any questions/thoughts??
-kev-
Kevin Perrine
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Angelina said:
I assume you mean what "issue number" of the Ultimate comic series...(?)
The answer...
Assume that it's the most current issue (once the actual story thread begins).
however, that is not the ONLY gauge of our game.
The problem in saying "this is all according to official Ultimate canon" or specifically set in the comic series is that SOME of the players will not have read any of the Ultimate comics.
That's okay.
That's not necessary for the point of our game.
Like the original comic series of the "SECRET WARS" the characters will be taken out of their continuity and pulled to another world by the BEYONDER. In the original comics of each hero entering the SW, they left in the current issue and then NEXT month they returned, some having changed (like Spidey in his new black suit) and none of them mentioning anything that happened in the SECRET WARS limited series...
Why?
Because the limited Series actually lasted for 12 issues - over the course of a year AFTER they first disappeared.
So... long story short.
We will be pulling the Heroes from the Ultimate setting from the most current comic on the stands as of next week or so...
BUT
We will assume they return to their continuity the very next issue in their comic series JUST LIKE the original limited series.
This allows us to have a "what if" type story and still feel like it COULD BE a part of the real continuity.
Even if characters were to change (or die!!) when they are returned to their main comic line they'll have forgotten their dealings in this Secret War to save the universe (just like the original)
does that make sense...?
-kev-
Kevin Perrine
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I got this question privately and thought it might help everyone to talk about... if anyone else has questions to what I'm thinking - speak up! 
> Uh, I guess that's ok with me.... What I really mean is I don't know
> what the "teams" thing you're talking about is. Separate
> email threads
> during game play?
Nope. The posts will remain on one thread....
The way the game thread will begin is with all the Heroes in their individual life situations. That might have the Ultimates at the end of a mission (together), or all at their HQ having dinner (together), or possibly separate (like Jenn in court). And beginning the story thread with you introducing the characters through description of the situation and roleplaying (if you're with another teammate).
Most of the heroes will be with their smaller team. (the Ultimates, the FF, the X-men) but then there are characters like Spiderman that isn't on a team like that and he may be swinging through NYC bopping the heads of bank robbers together with a fun little dialogue.
THIS opening scene will be a little more open for YOU as players to describe.
This is meant to welcome you to the game and get the situation rolling to the point when the actual SECRET WARS event happens...
For an idea of what I'm saying (for this "opening scene") take a look at Tokiwong "Generations" M&M game.
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89308
Everyone is doing something different somewhere else. They're all OVER the world right now, in two or three different groups.
I LOVE to use comic book and movie descriptors for gaming. Things like "opening panel", "splash page", what's on the cover, or "pans", "zooms" and "montage", etc... to describe scenes...
And I expect (or encourage) you to in your descriptions.
so... for the narrative opening think of them as the ending pages/panels of the character (or the Team) main comic book line...
Winding down to the end of their comic that BEGINS the Secret Wars.
Now...
For teams.
When I refer to "teams" I'm thinking of how the BIG group of Heroes naturally split in the original Secret Wars. It might even be MORE dramatic in our Ultimate SW.
Amoung the Heroes... the "teams" are:
- the ULTIMATES (Avengers)
- the Fantastic Four
- the X-men
- and those that are solo (like Spidey and Hulk), the solos don't really form a team together they just gravitate to whomevers group they naturally would (Spidey and Hulk gravitated toward the Avengers mostly).
Part of the melodrama SHOULD come from the conflicts of these teams...
- Who LEADS the heroes, when there are 3 teams and solos??
- Why would anyone trust the mutants??
- Why would the mutants trust anyone else??
and naturally if you're in a situation that demands you "choose" who to help it's obvious that you would lean to the side that is your team
(for example: the Thing would rush to help Reed, before anyone else would or before he would rush to help the Hulk)
But ultimately
the group must work together to defeat the common foe (who may be the villains or the Beyonder or something else)
In the original series, the X-men left without telling anyone to find Magneto's base apart from the Avengers and FF... because they felt they could only truely trust their own kind, and even though Magneto was their enemy they had more loyalty to him than the others.
But then they came back to aid the Avengers later...
So... Rather than "sticking together" because you're on the Heroes side... I expect you all to roleplay the style/personality of the characters best you can and IF that means that you get in an arguement or even leave the others ... so be it.
Off the top of my mind - the HULK is a HUGE problem for the Ultimates in their continuity... but then again the Ultimates use the Hulk as a weapon they can barely control (by tricking him)...
That will be fun to see in the game.
make sense?
thoughts??
-kev-
> Uh, I guess that's ok with me.... What I really mean is I don't know
> what the "teams" thing you're talking about is. Separate
> email threads
> during game play?
Nope. The posts will remain on one thread....
The way the game thread will begin is with all the Heroes in their individual life situations. That might have the Ultimates at the end of a mission (together), or all at their HQ having dinner (together), or possibly separate (like Jenn in court). And beginning the story thread with you introducing the characters through description of the situation and roleplaying (if you're with another teammate).
Most of the heroes will be with their smaller team. (the Ultimates, the FF, the X-men) but then there are characters like Spiderman that isn't on a team like that and he may be swinging through NYC bopping the heads of bank robbers together with a fun little dialogue.
THIS opening scene will be a little more open for YOU as players to describe.
This is meant to welcome you to the game and get the situation rolling to the point when the actual SECRET WARS event happens...
For an idea of what I'm saying (for this "opening scene") take a look at Tokiwong "Generations" M&M game.
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89308
Everyone is doing something different somewhere else. They're all OVER the world right now, in two or three different groups.
I LOVE to use comic book and movie descriptors for gaming. Things like "opening panel", "splash page", what's on the cover, or "pans", "zooms" and "montage", etc... to describe scenes...
And I expect (or encourage) you to in your descriptions.
so... for the narrative opening think of them as the ending pages/panels of the character (or the Team) main comic book line...
Winding down to the end of their comic that BEGINS the Secret Wars.
Now...
For teams.
When I refer to "teams" I'm thinking of how the BIG group of Heroes naturally split in the original Secret Wars. It might even be MORE dramatic in our Ultimate SW.
Amoung the Heroes... the "teams" are:
- the ULTIMATES (Avengers)
- the Fantastic Four
- the X-men
- and those that are solo (like Spidey and Hulk), the solos don't really form a team together they just gravitate to whomevers group they naturally would (Spidey and Hulk gravitated toward the Avengers mostly).
Part of the melodrama SHOULD come from the conflicts of these teams...
- Who LEADS the heroes, when there are 3 teams and solos??
- Why would anyone trust the mutants??
- Why would the mutants trust anyone else??
and naturally if you're in a situation that demands you "choose" who to help it's obvious that you would lean to the side that is your team
(for example: the Thing would rush to help Reed, before anyone else would or before he would rush to help the Hulk)
But ultimately
the group must work together to defeat the common foe (who may be the villains or the Beyonder or something else)
In the original series, the X-men left without telling anyone to find Magneto's base apart from the Avengers and FF... because they felt they could only truely trust their own kind, and even though Magneto was their enemy they had more loyalty to him than the others.
But then they came back to aid the Avengers later...
So... Rather than "sticking together" because you're on the Heroes side... I expect you all to roleplay the style/personality of the characters best you can and IF that means that you get in an arguement or even leave the others ... so be it.
Off the top of my mind - the HULK is a HUGE problem for the Ultimates in their continuity... but then again the Ultimates use the Hulk as a weapon they can barely control (by tricking him)...
That will be fun to see in the game.
make sense?
thoughts??
-kev-
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Shalimar
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In homeland Security, latest Ultimates TPB, Quicksilver and Wanda are both fine, and they like the brotherhood are secret Ultimates reserve members.Velmont said:Great! At the speed the Ultimate serie is coming out, I'll start at the hospital, with both my legs broken. How usefull I'll be in that game :\
Why did I choose Quicksilver
Shalimar
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Ultimate war is set before Homeland security, its actually part of the Ultimate X-men line of stories, there are only the 2 Books for the Ultimates so far, they just happen to be in Ultimate war, just like all of the X-men are in the 7th Spiderman volume, and like spiderman is in Ultimate X-men 7.
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