D&D 4E UPDATED 6/20/08! kiznit's 4e Fold-over Character Sheet w/ Cards

eternaleye

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Hello everyone, I liked this character sheet but was bothered by some things. Therefore, I went through and edited it by converting it to SVG images, editing them in Inkscape (Illustrator supports them too, but I'm on Linux and prefer open-source software anyway), exporting each page to PDF, and using GhostScript to combine them into one document. I went through the thread and implemented most of the suggestions made that would have been on the table for v1.1, and a few other like lightening the artwork a bit, making the blade of the sword lighter than the hilt so it looks more "swordlike", rounding the ends of most of the gray background boxes, and replacing most of the boxes that were not annotated with ovals to look "smoother". I uploaded a zip of the PDF and my SVG sources to megaupload, here's the link: DOWNLOAD. (Note: the fourth page and the PDF are tagged "nologo" because one of the modifications I made was to substitute in my logo, which I don't want shared - so I made a "nologo" version which is the same logo as the original.)

EDIT 1: Somehow the first few words got cut off.
 
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Rafe

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Kiznit, and this may sound odd, but is there any way you could post a file of the form-fillable version of the character sheet that contains only the first 2 pages and not all 7?

Modifying it disables the save data ability for those who don't have full versions of Adobe Acrobat. The reason I ask is because my players all have their own power cards and don't need the prop-up cards. Also, emailing 3.2 megs (2 pages) is a lot easier than emailing 7.5+ megs (7 pages).

Great work on the character sheet. Everyone in my group uses it.
 

eternaleye

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I just a bit ago noticed that the skills section was poorly marked up - my modification put 'Racial' boxes on the darkened lines but not the lightened ones. I fixed that, and switched the upload to MediaFire because they are less intrusive in their download setup. Download here.
 

Rafe

First Post
re: Skills: I think there needs to be a box after Racial modifiers for half level. I know that sounds silly, but I messed up my skill bonus totals 4 times due to trying to calculate ability score penalties/bonuses + 1/2 level + Jack of All Trades bonus OR Trained bonus +/- Armor Penalty + Misc. I don't feel there needs to be as large a space for Misc. Modifiers.

Also, it'd be nice for Racial Modifiers box to be an actual box (completely enclosed). Just easier to see and account for and is more consistent with the rest of the sheet.

Regardless of these little suggestions, I love the sheet and all my players use it in my game. In the game I play in, half the people use it. That's pretty good coverage and says a lot. :)
 

eternaleye

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Boxes for half-level added to both skill rows and to ability lines. My last change put actual boxes on all of the skill lines, and for Jack of All Trades (Which is a freaking awesome feat, my wizard has it) I recommend putting it in the shaded misc area.

New download here.

UPDATED 2008-11-12: Newer download here.
Changes:
- Removed 1/2 lvl field from skills, in favor of one at abilities
- Changed 1/2 lvl field at abilities to 1/2 lvl + Ability mod
- Fixed my incorrect fix for weight limits, the person who posted that must have been making a joke. (I'm still in my first campaign, a bit green, but open to advice if anyone wants to give it.)

By the way, if anyone is wondering why I've picked this up, it's because of a few reasons:
- I like doing vector editing and finicky changes to things
- This thread hasn't seen kiznit for a bit, and requests were piling up
- People were asking for editable sources, and pdf2svg was able to supply them (I love my linux utils)

If kiznit shows up, I'm totally cool with handing this back to him, and I'm also perfectly willing to fold in changes other people make to my version (provided they're okay with it)

In case this wasn't clear, inside the zip is:
- A PDF much like kiznit's original, but with my improvements
- A set of SVG files, one for each page.
-- These can be edited in Inkscape (my preference, free, and open-source), Illustrator, or other vector art programs. I can also export them to other formats if people want, the options for this are:

- "Plain" SVG - strictly standards compliant, understood by nearly everything
- PostScript (understood by Illustrator and most vector editors)
- Encapsulated PostScript (ditto PostScript)
- Enhanced Meta-File (mainly Microsoft things, if I remember correctly)
- POV-Ray (3-d renderers)
- LaTex + PSTricks (typesetting software)
- Gimp Palette (GNU Image Manipulation Program)
- OpenDocument Drawing (ISO Standard, implemented best by OpenOffice, which is free and open-source)
- Various bitmap formats (JPG, PNG, GIF, etc.)
 
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rvrchamp

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Wow this looks awesome!

I downloaded it successfully... but am unable to edit the sheets (ie enter my character information).

Is this because I'm on a mac? If so what do I need to do to be able to edit and add information?

thanks, and two thumbs up on the great work!
 

eternaleye

First Post
There's a form-fillable one, which is linked in the first post, but the one I posted is not yet form-fillable because of the convolutions that the document has gone through while I modified it. I'm currently working on a version that should be easier for others to make form-fillable versions of, but that's not yet done.
 

rvrchamp

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I see... well serious dude, this is an AWESOME sheet! Good job for picking up the baton and improving upon the design.

I'll keep an eye out for an update!
 

Llwynog

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I really like your changes. Most of our group prefers Kiznit's sheet because of the paper-doll equipment thing but I prefer to have calculation workspace so I've been using the neceros.com sheets. Your changes to Kiznit's sheets have almost got me convinced to use it (a little more OCD on calculation spaces would probably do it but since you provided the svgs I may be able to do it myself).
 
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eternaleye

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But the problem I'm having at the moment is that it won't print from Foxit 3.0.1301 in Windows 2000. We'll have our new SUSE box up and running next week and I can try some Linux options then. Any advice for now (other than installing the resource gobbling Adobe Reader which I'm glad to be rid of)?

Well, so far it's worked in Okular very well. It's a KDE4 program, which means that it's available for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

Links:
The KDE on Windows Project - Welcome to The KDE on Windows Project
.: KDE 4 Mac :.
http://kde.org (Main site, Linux)
 

Llwynog

First Post
Well, so far it's worked in Okular very well. It's a KDE4 program, which means that it's available for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

Links:
The KDE on Windows Project - Welcome to The KDE on Windows Project
.: KDE 4 Mac :.
http://kde.org (Main site, Linux)
Thanks for the tip but KDE has proven to be far too bloated for my taste. My linux setups that actually use desktop enviroments run Gnome because it's leaner. But normally I just use FVWM2.

Of course, I haven't used KDE in at least two years so it's probably a lot better than what I remember. 8o)
 

papaiggy

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Not pointing fingers or accusing anyone of anything here but when I tried to follow the 2nd link to the sheet that can be filled out I got a big warning message.

So just be aware your hosting site might have some issues.


What is the current listing status for fireforeffect.net?
Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.
Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 2 time(s) over the past 90 days.
What happened when Google visited this site?
Of the 6 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 5 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-03-13, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-03-13.Malicious software includes 9 scripting exploit(s), 8 trojan(s), 8 exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 18 new processes on the target machine.
Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including 200.155.17.0/.
This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS25973 (MZIMA).
Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?
Over the past 90 days, fireforeffect.net did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.
Has this site hosted malware?
No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.
How did this happen?
In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.
 


Fox Lee

Explorer
Chiming in late as usual, but I gotta say I adore this sheet. I'm printing them for my players in a small 4e game that will be starting soon. I hope they're as playable as they are sexy.

(Oh, and I wouldn't have my ability scores anywhere else. They've just got to go top-left, no question about it.)
 

gazugafan

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Hey everyone! My first post here, but hopefully it's a goody! I love Kiznit's character sheet, and I really liked a lot of the changes eternaleye made to it... some changes I didn't like so much, though, and there were other things I wanted to customize for myself. So, I made the changes I wanted and figured I'd post them here for everyone to use if they'd like. I hope you like them! (and no offense intended toward's Kiznit or eternaleye, of course--they did a fantastic job and I hope they don't mind me copying their work).

Download Here:
http://www.myhelpfulnerd.com/download/4eCharacterSht_kiznit_gazugafan.pdf

Here's a brief rundown of what I changed:
Added the rounded corners like eternaleyes
Lightened artwork like eternaleyes
Added Ability Check column to the right of ability scores
Added Temporary Hitpoints area
Added calculations for Passive Checks
Added racial bonus to defenses like eternaleyes
Lightened the racial column for skills
Expanded the Damage area under Basic Attacks (to simplify transferring the numbers to powers)
Added Ammo and Weight areas to the paperdoll
Added pg. column to Feats area
Split the Equipment list into two columns and added Wt. columns
Changed Coinage area to show different coin types
Added more lines to the power lists (there was a lot of whitespace there that seemed wasted)

There are still some changes I'd like to make... most notably to the Race and Class Features area--it seems to get so crammed and illegible to me. Also, I didn't modify the power cards section at all because we use another set. Constructive criticism/feedback appreciated!
 


Llwynog

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Thanks for the new sheet Gazugafan - will be using it in my next game.
Me too. Currently we use page one of one of Neceros' sheets and page two of eternaleye's (which doesn't seem to be available anymore) but we like your little tweaks even better so we'll be using your page two in the future. Thanks!
 

Bill Hooks

First Post
Hi,

Just downloaded this character sheet and I love it. Only one thing, though -- how are the cutouts on page 4 supposed to fit together? What are they for? It would be nice if there were an image showing the finished product in the extra space on that page.
 

GoliatheTank

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I was just wondering if there are any special instructions for the Envelope looking page on how to assemble (as I have always sucked at making Origami Envelopes and I am too cheap to buy real ones.) it sense it seems that it would come in handy for holding the power cards.
 

kiznit

Explorer
Hey folks!

I've totally neglected the hell out of my character sheets with regards to updating over the last two years. Sorry. I got distracted with building all that Old School Hack stuff, my bad.

But the good news is I'm working on a new, even more readable, version! This one geared towards Essentials play.

Here's a sneak preview of the work-in-progress (click to zoom):

 

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