D&D 5E (2024) Wargamer Takes Shot At WotC for Not Respecting Forgotten Realms Canon.

[Dannyalcatraz]

Dude, if you’re going to be rude I’m just going to block you. So….blocked.

Mod Note:

The ignore function exists for a reason, but we do ask that members don’t announce they’re using it on someone. It tends to agitate people rather than deescalate.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Maybe not exactly "ret-cons" but frankly I got tired of FR rehashing and rearranging a couple decades ago, and I do not envy a bit those who try to figure out what canon is

As I pointed out before, this isn’t a retcon. It doesn’t change what PDKs were in the past, it only changes what they are in the present.

The changes to drow are a retcon, and a welcome one.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Hold up, no. This is a really demeaning thing to write, I expect better from you. It isn’t a minor grievance for those of us who really are into Forgotten Realms lore

You being "into something" doesn't mean businesses are obliged to provide it for you. D&D is a game for playing. Fake history is a different genre entirely, and has nothing to do with WotC.

AND who spend our money to buy these books.

No one is forcing you to spend your money.

It isn’t meaningless to us,

That's a "you" problem. To most of us, it's ridiculous, and also complaining about making something much cooler than the old version.

and being utterly dismissive of people who care, even if you don’t agree, is just flat out passively aggressively rude.

Welcome to the internet, where people are allowed to disagree with you.

 

[Christian Hoffer]

Negative engagement drives clicks. If there are "fan complaints" about something, a lot of sites will incorporate that into their headlines because that drives views more than simple reporting of the facts.

 

[Azzy]

Meh, the Forgotten Realms were ruined with the Time of Troubles. This is small potatoes.

 

[TiQuinn]

I am not gonna read the article as it sounds like clickbait to me. I am just gonna say that as long as I remember the Forgotten Realms has always been subject to dramatic changes, often driven by rules edition changes. Maybe not exactly "ret-cons" but frankly I got tired of FR rehashing and rearranging a couple decades ago, and I do not envy a bit those who try to figure out what canon is.

Time of Troubles. Every assassin everywhere drops dead. Bane’s gone. Bane’s got better. Spellplague. Abeir’s back. Abeir’s gone again. Map shrank. Map got big again. Faerun’s not just the Sword Coast?

I deeply feel for any DM who has tried to weave WotC and TSR’s version of “canon” into their own campaign.

 

[Cergorach]

Writer of the article didn't know this bit of lore 15min before writing the article... Must be a slow news day...
OP misrepresents the article as some of stance by Wargamer... What else is new...

PDK is a 1000+ year old organization, things change in that time. The Lego company started with wooden toys 90+ years ago, these days it's plastic bricks instead of wooden toys. Why can't PDK have formed an alliance with Amethyst Dragons? Do I like that? Don't know, not much is known at this point if it's a development or a retcon. But I do know that a Black Dragon != Amethyst Dragon.

I didn't like the fluff jump of 3e to 4e with 100 years, and while the jump from 4e to 5e was far smaller, it wasn't much better imho. I like the gradual progress of a world, like 2e to 2e revised, even to 3e was nice and all. But WotC wanted a LOT of change with 4e and 5e suffered from those changes as well and then added some more to them. Too many chained world shattering events makes it feel less and less like FR. Shadowrun suffered from that as well after the first few editions. Change for change sake so they could sell more books and/or the writers wanted to create their own version of an established setting...

Don't get me wrong, I had issues with Time of Troubles as well, back in 2e! But that was one event, fine done, we can kinda ignore that, 100+ years worth of those events is not easy to ignore.

 

[DEFCON 1]

And besides... wasn't the whole point of people wanting a new Forgotten Realms campaign setting book for 5E was because Faerun had advanced over 100 years past the exceedingly comprehensive 3rd edition FRCS and they wanted all the areas of the continent "updated" with new lore and information?

And yet when an area shows evolution over 100 years... they get mad that changes are made to what had been true during the 3E timeline. That's just silly. I mean which is it? Does a person want all these areas to have new lore for the advanced timeline or don't they? Why not just slap a 5E logo onto the 3E FRCS if having direct "continuity" to the old lore means that much to a person? Especially considering I bet 99% of Forgotten Realms players haven't actually had campaigns (let alone adventures) in probably 75% of the setting. So all that 3E information on Turmish is just as "new" to almost the entire player base as anything Perkins et. al. would possibly write in a new 5E setting book.

 

[DarkCrisis]

THE Wargamer?

Honestly sounds like they wanted to do Dragonlance Solomonic Knights.

Also, this isn’t the worst change WotC has made to Faerun and it sadly won’t be the last.

 

[Azzy]

Also, this isn’t the worst change WotC has made to Faerun and it sadly won’t be the last.

Hell, it's not even the worst change that TSR made to the setting.