Warlock needs guidance!

[Thanee]

Precise Shot is a wasted feat. You already attack via ranged touch attack - an extra -4 to safely hit creatures in melee (if the DM chooses to impose it) won't matter much.

Are you kidding?

A +4 to hit bonus that applies in basically the most common circumstances is a waste?

Not everyone has a bad touch AC.

Bye
Thanee

 

[irdeggman]

Are you kidding?

A +4 to hit bonus that applies in basically the most common circumstances is a waste?

Not everyone has a bad touch AC.

Bye
Thanee

Let's look at the "investment" being made to get the benefit. Remember that a warlock gets no "bonus" feats so is essentially feat starved.

First you need Point Blank Shot (+1 to hit and damage w/i 30 ft)

then you can take precise shot (ignore the penaly for shooting into melee, essentially ignore the -4 to hit).

Note that when making a touch attack in most cases (not all, but clearly most when there is a lot of melee going on) you already get to ignore the armor and shield and natural armor bonuses to AC - which will usually get at least a +4 on your net attack in the first place..

If you multi class with fighter - using the fighter feats to pick up PBS and PS is not a bad choice, but trading warlock levels to do that is almost never worth it.

Getting feats like:

Magical Aptitude (+1 to spellcraft and UMD checks) is better for a class that excels at UMD (assuming the campaign is not a low magic item device one)

Dodge - always handy, even though the warlock has a better AC than does a wizard/sorcerer.

Improved Initiative - always good for a non-healer spellcaster

Skill Focus - UMD (don't underestimate the power of someone who is as good at UMD as is a warlock)

Any item creation feats (especially wands and wonderous items) work really, really well for a higher level warlock (again it depends on the population of magic items in the campaign)

Weapon focus (rays) is better than precise shot, but only available at 3rd level (that is the warlock can't meet the +1 BAB prerequisite at first level)

A warlock is not a primary anything.

He is decent at ranged damage, over many encounters.
He is great at UMD
He is great for detecting magic (saves spells for spell casters in the party and the sorcerer won't need to use a known spell to take it)
He has almost no support capability since almost all of his invocations are self only types and no "buffs" - but this is where UMD can come in really handy.

 

[neth123]

our warlock loves it when a monster wastes his time grappling one of our allies, he walks up, and uses the dimension door invocation to get the ally and himself out, and the major image always ends up making the mob waste a turn going after it.

 

[Herobizkit]

Not everyone has a bad touch AC.

Not everyone, to be sure, but most everything does... and anything that doesn't likely has spell resistance.

Remember that a warlock gets no "bonus" feats so is essentially feat starved.

Exactly my point. The warlock doesn't need ranged combat feats; he has precious few to being with.

 

[drvavylis]

Guys thanx for help.
But i am more confused right now
I try to make my warlock to be a blaster and somewhat a skill monkey
My skills are concentration UMD intimidate and bluff.
Because i am human and flaws (UA) are allowed i will have 4 feats at lvl1. So I insist on taking Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Weapon Focus (Eldritch Blast) and somthing more (what is the problem). When i become lvl 3 what feat should i take? Your aswers had too much info for my little warlock! I am low lvl!!!
Thanks guys!

PS: One more question because i think that i miss something. Do i apply the base attack bonus to my Eldritch Blast attack roll and then my DEX bonus to the dmg??

 

[Herobizkit]

Do i apply the base attack bonus to my Eldritch Blast attack roll and then my DEX bonus to the dmg??

You apply your DEX bonus to your attack roll, and you get no bonus to damage save for the possible +1 due to Point Blank Shot.

The 'problem' with your feat selection isn't a problem so much as taste, but some may argue that they are sub-optimal compared to what you COULD take. The EB, as I pointed out earlier, is fine as is - there's very little you can take to make it "better" from a strictly attack/damage standpoint. This is where your Shape Invocation abilities come in.

If you want to go skill monkey-ish, you could take the Cosmopolitan feat (found in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting). In short, it lets you take two cross-class skills, make them class skills, and adds a +2 bonus to each. You have to take this feat at 1st level, IIRC.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Are you kidding?

A +4 to hit bonus that applies in basically the most common circumstances is a waste?

Not everyone has a bad touch AC.

Bye
Thanee

Heh heh heh heh...you said [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqncj3G6tg"]"Bad Touch."[/ame]

 

[drvavylis]

You apply your DEX bonus to your attack roll, and you get no bonus to damage save for the possible +1 due to Point Blank Shot.
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Sorry for my stupidity but i still do not understand...
PLz explain more... (the base attack bonus wtf is it??)
And to be more clear (!) with my lock lvl 3 and dex14 and BAB +2 what numbers are paplied to my eldrich blast?

 

[drvavylis]

(i cannot quote properly )

 

[Herobizkit]

L3 Warlock: BAB +2
Dex 14: +2 to hit with ranged attacks
Weapon Focus (ray): +1 to hit with ray/Eldritch Blast
Point Blank Shot (if enemy is within 30'): +1 to hit and damage with ranged attacks

So, you get a total of +5 to hit with your EB, +6 if you are within 30' of your foe.
You get a total of (only) +1 to damage if you are within 30' of your foe.

As others have mentioned, tho, you cannot buy Weapon Focus at 1st level because, at that level, you do not have a BAB of +1.