Werewolf: The Forsaken Interest Thread
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Graf
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I like this one too. Very creative.
I think the ban is a bit too rural-animal in nature.
If it's really a mascot I think the totem would probably be more HS sports type. Purely for the purpose of debate how is the following?
BAN [Severity 2]: Juggernaut is a spirit that feeds on victory and struggle, especially on pysical competition. The every individual must engage in 30 minutes of physical training once a day. The "training" must be training, it can have no purpose other than to physically improve the werewolf. (So Jogging around the neighborhood keeping an eye on things isn't acceptable, but jumping rope in your garage would be).
It also demands proper competitions. Once a month the pack must challenge an outside group to some sort of challenge. The challenge must be announced in advance and awknowledged by the opponents. It must have certain agreed upon rules. Winning is not so important but during this challenge the pack must show "good sportsmanship" (as decided by the totem).
If we do take this one, maybe one of the granted skill dots should be athletics?
I think the ban is a bit too rural-animal in nature.
If it's really a mascot I think the totem would probably be more HS sports type. Purely for the purpose of debate how is the following?
BAN [Severity 2]: Juggernaut is a spirit that feeds on victory and struggle, especially on pysical competition. The every individual must engage in 30 minutes of physical training once a day. The "training" must be training, it can have no purpose other than to physically improve the werewolf. (So Jogging around the neighborhood keeping an eye on things isn't acceptable, but jumping rope in your garage would be).
It also demands proper competitions. Once a month the pack must challenge an outside group to some sort of challenge. The challenge must be announced in advance and awknowledged by the opponents. It must have certain agreed upon rules. Winning is not so important but during this challenge the pack must show "good sportsmanship" (as decided by the totem).
If we do take this one, maybe one of the granted skill dots should be athletics?
Shalimar
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The victory celebration idea actually came from going to a bunch of these in high school. We had Bon fires a couple of times a year and we cheerleaders always painted our faces in the school colors. We also had some very fun victory parties 
, we weren't in a rural area, we're in a suburb of Philly so I don't think a victory party is all that rustic. We did spill over into the park that was next to the field though.
The spirit is a spirit of victory and strength so sharing stories and celebrating victories feed it. Whatever the Ban is I think it should reflect the spirit's influences of Victory. On a side note, I think that Ban is rather harsh for a level 2.
, we weren't in a rural area, we're in a suburb of Philly so I don't think a victory party is all that rustic. We did spill over into the park that was next to the field though.The spirit is a spirit of victory and strength so sharing stories and celebrating victories feed it. Whatever the Ban is I think it should reflect the spirit's influences of Victory. On a side note, I think that Ban is rather harsh for a level 2.
Graf
Explorer
I admit my HS didn't do much in the way of sports so I'm not really sure what a victory party entails.
Having said that "having to have a party every couple of weeks" doesn't seem like much of a ban. Bans generally are things that people 1) wouldn't do regularly 2) wouldn't much like to do regularly.
In that context the work-out-daily is a bit weak but it's only a severity 2 ban and it's only part of the ban. The compeition theme in the second part of the ban allowed for 1) interesting roleplaying 2) didn't require us to actually win.
I.e. if you put in the time you satisfy your spirit.
That's about where I see 2... little chance of failure under normal circumstances, but definitely a pain in the rear.
I can see wanting to emphasize a victory influence, but I think that would be a requirement to actually be victorious in something (a party that happens every two weeks no matter what seems like it would be a Celebration Influence).
If you're looking for a severity 2 Ban with a focus on victory I think we'd need to look at somthing like:
Every season your pack must openly challenge and best a worthy oponent. The spirit cares about winning, and nothing else, but you must best your foe in a decisive manner.
Having said that "having to have a party every couple of weeks" doesn't seem like much of a ban. Bans generally are things that people 1) wouldn't do regularly 2) wouldn't much like to do regularly.
In that context the work-out-daily is a bit weak but it's only a severity 2 ban and it's only part of the ban. The compeition theme in the second part of the ban allowed for 1) interesting roleplaying 2) didn't require us to actually win.
I.e. if you put in the time you satisfy your spirit.
That's about where I see 2... little chance of failure under normal circumstances, but definitely a pain in the rear.
I can see wanting to emphasize a victory influence, but I think that would be a requirement to actually be victorious in something (a party that happens every two weeks no matter what seems like it would be a Celebration Influence).
If you're looking for a severity 2 Ban with a focus on victory I think we'd need to look at somthing like:
Every season your pack must openly challenge and best a worthy oponent. The spirit cares about winning, and nothing else, but you must best your foe in a decisive manner.
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Shalimar
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The ban I suggested was taken from the list of level 3 bans, so it is definitely harsh enough if that was the worry. We aren't burning any material symbols of our victories but a bonfire would certainly be appropriate.
A level 2 ban is only suppoused to conflict slightly with what the pack would normally do with out the ban. The 30 min a day requirement is actually harsher then a level 4 requirement of praying to a spirit 5 times a day for 2 minutes. At level 2 the service should be a weekly thing that requires a bit of time and effort. Having a victory celebration each week would certainly count as conflicting with what the pack would normally do since they wouldn't do it at all.
That works too, altough I think Juggernaut would be a cool totem spirit.
A level 2 ban is only suppoused to conflict slightly with what the pack would normally do with out the ban. The 30 min a day requirement is actually harsher then a level 4 requirement of praying to a spirit 5 times a day for 2 minutes. At level 2 the service should be a weekly thing that requires a bit of time and effort. Having a victory celebration each week would certainly count as conflicting with what the pack would normally do since they wouldn't do it at all.
That works too, altough I think Juggernaut would be a cool totem spirit.
Shalimar
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Another option would be to put forward a few spirits and then let Toki surprise us. I'm good witheither but I prefer Juggernaut, and I definitely think that we need all the help we can get with combat since Camera has no brawl at all and Faith has no strength, and we are a generally weak pack combatwise.
Festy_Dog
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I've found myself to be a big fan of Juggernaut, it's really struck a chord with me.
The Brawl points seem to be very helpful for the party at present, but I think if we don't move one of those points into athletics then if/when we put more points into Juggernaut in future we should probably add a point or two in athletics since the origins of Juggernaut's birth are in competitive sports.
As far as the bans go there's always that option of taking a harsher ban than we need to in order to get a bonus, but then there appears to be a preference for minimising the ban's severity.
The Brawl points seem to be very helpful for the party at present, but I think if we don't move one of those points into athletics then if/when we put more points into Juggernaut in future we should probably add a point or two in athletics since the origins of Juggernaut's birth are in competitive sports.
As far as the bans go there's always that option of taking a harsher ban than we need to in order to get a bonus, but then there appears to be a preference for minimising the ban's severity.
Tokiwong
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Pack Territory
The pack territory is about fifty square miles of housing developments, mainly Hillside Heights on the south side of Palisades View Pond; and Mile High Palisades on the north side with its many lakefront homes. Located nearby is Jefferson High School, home of the Juggernauts; where most of the young people from these housing developments go to school. There is a mall on the outskirts of the territory, Hillside Mall.
The region is not spiritually dead but most uratha consider the region spiritually weak; although the thick woods bordering the developments are strong with spirits, but rumors fly that they are home to powerful and vengeful entities that hate the encroachment of man… other rumors tell of Predator Kings that haunt the dark woods, and perhaps even worse things.
The pack is aware of a locus in the Palisades Park, a Gazebo that is known among the young people as a popular place to bring a date and get lucky. The resonance is one of lust and is moderately potent; Locus 2; supposedly a powerful spirit haunts it, but none of the uratha have ever seen it.
History wise, the region used to be in the care of native American tribes before the rise of the white settlers, even after Denver came into its own his region was largely undeveloped and only within the last fifteen years or so have people begun to settle with any regularity. The High School has only been around for about seven years, and in that time has risen to prominence in competitive sports and education, having much to do with the relative wealth of the region.
The pack territory is about fifty square miles of housing developments, mainly Hillside Heights on the south side of Palisades View Pond; and Mile High Palisades on the north side with its many lakefront homes. Located nearby is Jefferson High School, home of the Juggernauts; where most of the young people from these housing developments go to school. There is a mall on the outskirts of the territory, Hillside Mall.
The region is not spiritually dead but most uratha consider the region spiritually weak; although the thick woods bordering the developments are strong with spirits, but rumors fly that they are home to powerful and vengeful entities that hate the encroachment of man… other rumors tell of Predator Kings that haunt the dark woods, and perhaps even worse things.
The pack is aware of a locus in the Palisades Park, a Gazebo that is known among the young people as a popular place to bring a date and get lucky. The resonance is one of lust and is moderately potent; Locus 2; supposedly a powerful spirit haunts it, but none of the uratha have ever seen it.
History wise, the region used to be in the care of native American tribes before the rise of the white settlers, even after Denver came into its own his region was largely undeveloped and only within the last fifteen years or so have people begun to settle with any regularity. The High School has only been around for about seven years, and in that time has risen to prominence in competitive sports and education, having much to do with the relative wealth of the region.
