What about my dragonborn

[Minigiant]

Lycanthropy is a disease, and should probably be in the DM' s guide.

Don't let the werewolves hear you calling them a disease. They are a proud people with slight emotional issues to deal with.

 

[technoextreme]

I like exotic races like dragonborns, tieflings and devas, but I'm not so sure they should be in the core rulebook.

Tieflings conceptually are far more common than anything you can find in the original player races so they aren't exactly that exotic.

 

[Holy Bovine]

This. I have no problem with Dragonborn in a particular setting like Dragonlance or something. But they don't belong in core. Core races should be the traditional D&D races.

Which are what? Just what appeared in the 1E PHB? The Holmes Basic D&D book? You do know there have been 30+ years of changes and innovations since then right? Not all good (obviously) but surely there is something worthwhile in all of that. This really comes across as One True Wayism to me.

I want options, lots of them, in my PHB. 20 races with 12 classes would do for a start.

 

[Stormonu]

I say we split the difference on tieflings and assimar and just make cambions and planetars PCs again. Why have "plane-touched" when you can have the real deal?

 

[Shadeydm]

Don't let the werewolves hear you calling them a disease. They are a proud people with slight emotional issues to deal with.

EMO werewolves FTW!

 

[Sunseeker]

I say we split the difference on tieflings and assimar and just make cambions and planetars PCs again. Why have "plane-touched" when you can have the real deal?

Hey if they can make it work with no LA or a minor one(+1 max), I'm down. I think racial feats could cover the more extreme powers as you level up if you want them.

 

[vagabundo]

While I like dragonborn in theory, I wouldn´t want to play one for real. They are too far away for me to play.
That beeing said, I want races categorized as classes: common, uncommon and rare.
So you can start with the big 4 races. Human, Elf/High-Elf, Dwarf, Halfling as common. Gnome, Half-Orc, Half-Elf and Goliath, and all others as rare... or something like that. This way, the DM can chose which category seems appropriate for his campaign.

Yeah I like that system. It is easily modified too: "In this world Dragonborn are uncommon, not rare".

I think it would help with roleplaying for players too.

 

[avin]

This. I have no problem with Dragonborn in a particular setting like Dragonlance or something. But they don't belong in core. Core races should be the traditional D&D races.

And then, again, people who don't want to play tolkien-like D&D should wait months before play other races? Why? Because of "tradition"?

I'm still waiting to see data proving that Halfling is a popular race in campaigns where more than "traditional" humans/elves/dwarves/halflings/gnomes are allowed.

 

[Grimmjow]

And then, again, people who don't want to play tolkien-like D&D should wait months before play other races? Why? Because of "tradition"?

I'm still waiting to see data proving that Halfling is a popular race in campaigns where more than "traditional" humans/elves/dwarves/halflings/gnomes are allowed.

exactly we don't need 10 new races in the core rules give us humans/elves/half-elves/dwarf/gnome/halfling and then 4 weirder races, like eladrin/dragonborn/tielfing/shifters

Shifters if they are giving us a werewolf theme in the core why not the half-werewolf race?

 

[Gorgoroth]

dude, where...

Some kids are happy with the 6 color crayola box. Until they get the bigger box, and get used to lots of colors. Then, going back to the original, is kinda, meh. Even if it's crayons from a different company, with a slightly different shade of "red, white, black, blue, yellow, green", it's still a let down.

Once you are used to a decent variety, having it taken is away makes me a sad, sad panda.

If I open PHB without a picture of dragon-man, I'll be like "Dude, where's my dragonborn?" I'll still play it, and love it, or hate it, but I'll be thinking...hmm I paid so much in 4e building up my dragonmen archetype characters in my mind, that suddenly not being able to play them is ...

Can we get a holla for the big box of crayons?

You don't HAVE to draw in purple or brown or pink if you don't want to. If you like the basic 4 or 6, that's fine, your choice pal. Don't tell me I can't use purple, or that purple is not a fruit. Grape-flavored dragonmen who puke sticky koolaid on their foes to ensare them...what what?

It's like Batman, but. in D&D: I am Batman, but more Dragony. Like DragonMan. We hate dragons? And fear them? But this is a way to own that fear, to turn the fear against the dragons. The psychology is complex relating to this dragonborn fixation, and little is known about it. More study is needed.

Is this dorky? Yes.
Does it make me happy? Yes.
Am I a huge dork? I grant you that, sirs.

Just let me sit on my throne of Dorknerdia and reign in terror. And burninate all those who displease me.