Chaltab
Legend
That really only applies to Wizards. The other arcane casters don't use a spellbook.
D&D 5E What could 5E do to make wealth worthwhile?
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R_J_K75
Legend
It might be a few weeks before we play again, one of my players had something come up. I'm going to read the 5E D&D downtime rules. Next time we play I'll gauge their interest if they want to use downtime or not before I invest in any other systems. Do any of those you mentioned have a SRD I can download for free to see those rules?
dave2008
Legend
Not quite. These are rules for PCs to play immortals with divine levels and tiers of power: demigod, lesser deity, intermediate deity, greater deity, elder deity, and over deity (based on the BECMI Initiate, Temporal, Celestial, Empyreal, Eternal, and Hierarch Immortals). The downtime rules would be for, among other things, establishing and maintaining a divine realm; managing / negotiating / politics of pantheons; and mortal realm influences (think the Clash of the Titans scene were the gods are essentially playing "chess" with mortals).
dave2008
Legend
LevelUp does and it has most, if not all, of the rules online for free: A5e tools
Regarding downtime, it is in the adventurer's guide: Between Adventures
And the SRD is here: A5eSRD
PS - you can download each chapter of the SRD or a compiled PDF of the whole book. Downtime is PDF #8 (Adventuring) under the Adventurer's Guide SRD.
R_J_K75
Legend
Thanks, I'll DL them and take a look at them
Jefe Bergenstein
Legend
I loathe training cost rules and can all but guarantee few people other than 60+ year old DM's find it fun to throw your gold into a pit to get your next level you already earned with experience points. And I say this as a near perma DM. There's a reason they haven't been part of D&D in like 45 years.
Unless players can spend gold on learning extra weapon masteries, feats, etc, it's just a BS gold sink. Cut out the middleman and simply give less gold rather than taxing them on something they already worked towards.
Unless players can spend gold on learning extra weapon masteries, feats, etc, it's just a BS gold sink. Cut out the middleman and simply give less gold rather than taxing them on something they already worked towards.
Shadowdweller00
Hero
Stuff players can do with money in my present campaign:
- (Buy or commission magic items, of course)
- Buy property
- Construct, expand, or contract the construction of buildings on that property.
- Purchase exotic creatures, like griffons.
- Hire experts to train said creatures
- Commission sages to research a particular subject
- Hire investigators to find out information about a particular person
- Purchase land, sea, or air vehicles
- Install siege weapon on their fortress or vehicle
- Add enhancements like safety railings, extra armor, weightlifting machinery, or sealed compartments to vehicles.
- Improve existing settlements
- Fund organizations that advocate for particular populations
- Build temples, shrines, libraries, exotic herb gardens
- Start and run businesses.
- Hire barristers to pursue or defend against legal issues
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Hriston
Dungeon Master of Middle-earth (He/him)
This is adapted from Gygax’s DMG, p 86.
Training to Gain Levels
Once a character has earned enough experience points to attain a new level, s/he must train for a number of days before gaining any class features associated with the new level.
The training time required is 5 (6) days if the character has attained name-level for his/her class or if the character is below name-level and the training is with a higher-level tutor of the same class as the character. Training without a tutor takes 10 (12) days if the character has not yet attained name-level. Different classes attain name-level at different levels as shown in the Name-Level table.
Name-Level
The training cost depends on the class-level to be gained as shown in the Training Cost tables. The training cost is for the total training time.
Training Cost for Levels up to and including Name-Level
Training Cost for Levels above Name-Level
Once a character has earned enough experience points to attain a new level, s/he must train for a number of days before gaining any class features associated with the new level.
The training time required is 5 (6) days if the character has attained name-level for his/her class or if the character is below name-level and the training is with a higher-level tutor of the same class as the character. Training without a tutor takes 10 (12) days if the character has not yet attained name-level. Different classes attain name-level at different levels as shown in the Name-Level table.
Name-Level
| Class | Level |
| Monk | 7th |
| Barbarian | 8th |
| Cleric, Fighter, Paladin | 9th |
| Ranger, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warlock | 10th |
| Bard, Wizard | 11th |
| Druid | 12th |
The training cost depends on the class-level to be gained as shown in the Training Cost tables. The training cost is for the total training time.
Training Cost for Levels up to and including Name-Level
Level Attained | With Tutor | Without Tutor |
2nd | 900 gp | 1,800 gp |
3rd | 1,800 gp | 3,600 gp |
4th | 2,700 gp | 5,400 gp |
5th | 3,600 gp | 7,200 gp |
6th | 4,500 gp | 9,000 gp |
7th | 5,400 gp | 10,800 gp |
8th | 6,300 gp | 12,600 gp |
9th | 7,200 gp | 14,400 gp |
10th | 8,100 gp | 16,200 gp |
11th | 9,000 gp | 18,000 gp |
12th | 9,900 gp | 19,800 gp |
Training Cost for Levels above Name-Level
Level Attained | Barbarian, Bard, Fighter, Paladin, and Ranger | Cleric, Druid, Monk, and Rogue | Sorcerer, Warlock, and Wizard |
8th | --- | 8,400 gp | --- |
9th | 4,800 gp | 9,600 gp | --- |
10th | 5,400 gp | 10,800 gp | --- |
11th | 6,000 gp | 12,000 gp | 24,000 gp |
12th | 6,600 gp | 13,200 gp | 26,400 gp |
13th | 7,200 gp | 14,400 gp | 28,800 gp |
14th | 7.800 gp | 15,600 gp | 31,200 gp |
15th | 8,400 gp | 16,800 gp | 33,600 gp |
16th | 9,000 gp | 18,000 gp | 36,000 gp |
17th | 9,600 gp | 19,200 gp | 38,400 gp |
18th | 10,200 gp | 20,400 gp | 40,800 gp |
19th | 10,800 gp | 21,600 gp | 43,200 gp |
20th | 11,400 gp | 22,800 gp | 45,600 gp |
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
They have the option in my game of not training and - as a result - advancing slower, if they're that poor or are that desperate to keep their money for something else.
And yes, it is a gold sink - that's the point of this whole thread: providing options for where characters in a 5e or 5e-like game can spend their wealth rather than just watching it uselessly accumulate.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
Your cost formula looks similar to mine - you're using 900 (or 1800 if self-training) per level being trained out of, where I use 1000 per level being trained into thus training for 2nd level is about 2000, 3rd level about 3000, and so on.
The no-tutor option is intriguing, I have it that after about name level or a tidge higher they don't need a tutor in any case (if for no other reason than high-level people aren't always easy to find and-or available) meaning this dual-pricing system wouldn't work. One can also argue that part of the cost of training is to pay the tutor thus untutored training should be cheaper rather than more costly, with the drawback being it takes far longer.
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