What do you think is the hardest AD&D or D&D video game fight?

BGII, Melissan, with the Ascension mod.

I still have yet to beat her and all the Five in the last phase of the Final Battle. There are powerful spellcasters aglore, a really powerful archer with all kinds of broken unique abilities, a Fire Giant with 99% physical immunities, and you have to kill the Five at roughly the same time. Otherwise, Melissan promptly jumps in and slaughters you with the other four. Time Stop/Alacrity is used liberally by Sendai, and Melissan Time Stops and proceeds to lay down the beatings, while Time Stopped.

I think I stopped playing because she and her hench-avatars kept of whooping me, and I haven't gone back since the game demands so very much of my time if I play. Hmn. Maybe I should install it again...
 

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Solarious said:
BGII, Melissan, with the Ascension mod.

I still have yet to beat her and all the Five in the last phase of the Final Battle. There are powerful spellcasters aglore, a really powerful archer with all kinds of broken unique abilities, a Fire Giant with 99% physical immunities, and you have to kill the Five at roughly the same time. Otherwise, Melissan promptly jumps in and slaughters you with the other four. Time Stop/Alacrity is used liberally by Sendai, and Melissan Time Stops and proceeds to lay down the beatings, while Time Stopped.

I think I stopped playing because she and her hench-avatars kept of whooping me, and I haven't gone back since the game demands so very much of my time if I play. Hmn. Maybe I should install it again...

Well, BGII had this little exploit that made things infinitely easier.

You Project image, summon a ton of Solars, and then cast a new Project Image... I don't remember exactly how, but you can pretty easily get 30+ Solars helping you out at once. Ascension was made under the assumption that you would use those sorts of "tricks," so that's why it was so hard.

In vanilla (non-modded) games, I'd say BGI against Sarevok is tops. That's one battle I can't win without massive fog of war exploits.
 

DM-Rocco said:
Just womdering what you thought the hardest video game fight out of the AD&D and D&D games was?

I have a few that stick in my mind, most from BG. I think the hardest was either the Lich that you had to kill three times, the third time he was a Demi-Lich or the final battle in I think it was the first BG. They had hasted, displaced dopplergangers. That was just insane and totally nuts. Specially since you weren't all that high level.


The only way I found to beat the Demi-Lich was with a Wizard Eye (to keep it distracted while your characters stay out of its way), and Melf's Minute Meteors (The only spell that has a good chance of damaging it).
 

as I stated in another thread the Mulmaster Beholder Corps in Curse of the Azure Bonds. it was a side quest that was nigh impossible. basically it was your 6 PCs versus about 20 of each of Beholders, Dark Elf Lords (self hasting and mostly immune to magic), High Priests (lots of Save or Die and charm magic) and Rakshasa (fireball crazy but vulnerable to the blessed crossbow bolt).
 

The toughest fight (to me) is the Balor in the Fire Node in the Temple of Elemental Evil. Fighting a Balor with 10th-level characters sucks any way you cut it. Still never won that fight.
 

Hammerhead said:
The Red Dragon in the AD&D arcade game. Unbeatable. :)

Me and three friends spent 60 bucks to kill that #^@&!*$ dragon. My parents were pissed (my cash) but my friends and I had a crowd and everyone in the arcade was screaming. God that was a good day!
 

Dykstrav said:
The toughest fight (to me) is the Balor in the Fire Node in the Temple of Elemental Evil. Fighting a Balor with 10th-level characters sucks any way you cut it. Still never won that fight.

The Balor in ToEE is pretty tough, especially since a game bug crashes the game if you try to use Fragarach on him...

Best tactics: if you have item creating characters, get as many holy, icy burst weapons as possible. Also, a high level rogue with a Ring of Invisibility can inflict some good sneak attack damage. Throw around plenty of Protection from Evil spells to foil his charm attempts, and a Paladin will be immune to the Fear effect...
 

Dykstrav said:
The toughest fight (to me) is the Balor in the Fire Node in the Temple of Elemental Evil. Fighting a Balor with 10th-level characters sucks any way you cut it. Still never won that fight.

I didn't have a problem with that one. I don't think I had to restore more than twice. If I'm remembering correctly, I used my spellcasters to summon as many creatures as they could manage to soak up some of the damage, while I got my front line fighters, and my hidden thief into combat. Those characters could deal quite a bit of damage per hit.

The Demi-Lich in Baldur's Gate I had to restore about 20 times before I figured out how to beat it.
 

Hammerhead said:
The Red Dragon in the AD&D arcade game. Unbeatable. :)
I remember that game now. You could be the dragon. He was tough, no doubt, but uou can do it. I have a few times. Eventually, with out a hefty suppl;y of quarters :D :p :lol:
 

Well I've beaten all the other nodes, so I use the orb of golden death to summon all the other demons, toss out summoned critters, and went with ranged attacks with holy/icy burst bows. Still haven't beaten it...
 

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