D&D 5E What (if anything) do you find "wrong" with 5E?

[Vaalingrade]

Gotta appreciate how we've got threads on the front page that are essentially 'tell us how ~speshul~ 5e is and how all the boys in school want to get with her' and then 'Let's all talk about 5e behind her back and how she is totally not pulling off that top and those jeans'.

And people are doing both in both.

 

[theCourier]

I forgot, but:

Not enough funny math rocks.

 

[cbwjm]

Why can't I multiclass with sub-classes? This is actually outside the purview of this thread, because it doesn't bug me in the same way having nothing to spend money on after 2nd level does. But really - why can't we multi-class to another sub-class in the same class?

I've been reading through the new transformers RPG. The system is essence 20 but it clearly got a lot of design from 5e (it was originally going to be 5e from what I've heard), such as classes, subclasses, advantage/disadvantage (called edge/snag), and feats (called perks) which you receive at the same rate as feats in 5e.

While there doesn't seem to be multiclassing, there is a feat that lets you choose a feature from another class as long as the feature is gained at a level no higher than half your level. I think this would be a cool idea to bring into 5e, though I'm sure the balance would be all over the place.

 

[James Gasik]

I've been reading through the new transformers RPG. The system is essence 20 but it clearly got a lot of design from 5e (it was originally going to be 5e from what I've heard), such as classes, subclasses, advantage/disadvantage (called edge/snag), and feats (called perks) which you receive at the same rate as feats in 5e.

While there doesn't seem to be multiclassing, there is a feat that lets you choose a feature from another class as long as the feature is gained at a level no higher than half your level. I think this would be a cool idea to bring into 5e, though I'm sure the balance would be all over the place.

Oof, yeah, since some class features are "ribbons", some barely more than ribbons, and others are juicy steaks. Imagine how many classes would like to snag themselves the Paladin's Aura of Protection, for example.

 

[Minigiant]

Why can't I multiclass with sub-classes? This is actually outside the purview of this thread, because it doesn't bug me in the same way having nothing to spend money on after 2nd level does. But really - why can't we multi-class to another sub-class in the same class?

Because frankly the design team were all traditionalists and tradtionalist were oversampled in the playtest. So they well never thought of the idea.

The design team are not bad folk. But when the everyone in the design team of a project are very similiar, they wont think of ideas outside their personal viewpoint.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Mod Note:

A couple pages back, I noted some people getting personal, threadcrapping and the like, but RW obligations pulled me away from the tablet.

It seems to have died down a bit, but let’s not return to listening to the devils on our shoulders again, OK?

 

[Horwath]

Why does this matter?

It affects distribution of rolls.

it makes rolls more reliable and bonuses matter more as the random factor is less "swingy"

with d20 rolls of 15+ are 30% of the time, same with bad rolls of 1-6. That leaves middle rolls of 7-14 with 40% of the distribution.

with 3d6, rolls of 7-14 take 81% of the possible rolls.

 

[Horwath]

That's a huge one.

Not having a toggle for 1-3 encounter days is a huge flaw of 5e.

1-3 deadly+ encounters per day is a good toggle.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Gotta appreciate how we've got threads on the front page that are essentially 'tell us how ~speshul~ 5e is and how all the boys in school want to get with her' and then 'Let's all talk about 5e behind her back and how she is totally not pulling off that top and those jeans'.

And people are doing both in both.

I this describing a real thing people do or is this metaphor just a joke?

Because frankly the design team were all traditionalists and tradtionalist were oversampled in the playtest. So they well never thought of the idea.

The design team are not bad folk. But when the everyone in the design team of a project are very similiar, they wont think of ideas outside their personal viewpoint.

this is probably what bugs me about 5e it is so very generic themes I like my fantasy strange if I wanted generic fantasy I could play a videogame.

 

[cbwjm]

Oof, yeah, since some class features are "ribbons", some barely more than ribbons, and others are juicy steaks. Imagine how many classes would like to snag themselves the Paladin's Aura of Protection, for example.

Oh yeah, it'd be crazy. Some are clearly fine since they already exist as feats, but others would be super overpowered.