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Yea. I’m noting it down.That is probably the best description of what constitutes an edition change that I have read.
Works too with Basic vs others versions of D&D too. And Call if Cthulhu or Vampire or GURPS or Hero
Yea. I’m noting it down.That is probably the best description of what constitutes an edition change that I have read.
I honestly think that is precisely what we will see in 2024: a new Core set of books acknowledged as 6E by WotC, but that will work smoothly with a mixed 2014/2024 options table. It's very doable because of the exception based ruleset with a modular nature.We could, but I believe that is much less likely than people calling it 6e, even if it doesn't warrant that description, IMO.
What advantage does WotC gain by calling it 6e?I honestly think that is precisely what we will see in 2024: a new Core set of books acknowledged as 6E by WotC, but that will work smoothly with a mixed 2014/2024 options table. It's very doable because of the exception based ruleset with a modular nature.
At the moment, nothing, hence their focus on assuring us that they will be compatible, and demonstrating they all be with products like Monsters of the Multiverse. But once they have established that the rules are really compatible, confirming that it is 6E will be worth some sales.What advantage does WotC gain by calling it 6e?
Heh, as far as I can tell, they will ambiguously call it the "anniversary edition", without committing themselves to a "number".
So you are saying something like:At the moment, nothing, hence their focus on assuring us that they will be compatible, and demonstrating they all be with products like Monsters of the Multiverse. But once they have established that the rules are really compatible, confirming that it is 6E will be worth some sales.
I mean, if it's just what I would do, I would make 6e, and it would be a rebuild of 4e taking lessons from prior editions the way 5e was a rebuild of 3e taking lessons from prior editions. A shiny new coat on a slightly altered core with better (much, much, MUCH better) presentation.That’s because that is what I’m interested in? What would you do? What do you think WotC would?
Not if you think it’s possible or not.
It’s not like a rocket launch, all or nothing. It’s more like what really happened to the James Webb through no fault of the engineers, it got hit by space debris.
"Need" is a strong word, but if they make the package attractive enough (tons of new high quality fantasy art, integrating popular rule variants from ten years of supplements, etc...), then they could get some serious buy-in. And people who don't want to buy in will be (relatively) relaxed if they know that they can still show up to games with their old books and not be turned away. We already know from Monsters of the Multiverse what the new approach to Monsters looks like, and...you can use them interchangeable with early 5E stuff.So you are saying something like:
The 5e diehards who will stick with 5e will likely also know that it will remain compatible, but everyone else will assume they need to buy the new edition?
I think they've tipped their hand with the D&D movie previews bow: I think we will see a major preview of the new rules in the Starter Set next month thing into thr movie.
From what we have seen so far, the screenshots of the basic rules are rearranged from those in the original Starter Set...the rules thar are identical between the Starter Set, PHB, Basic rules, amd Essentials Kit. So I think we will see the revised core basic rules of the game in their entirety, based on nesrly a decade of feedback and Sage Advice work.What kind of new rules do you suspect we will see?
(Druid becoming owlbear is no big deal. It is still the same game engine.)
Wow. So you are expecting some game engine updates?the screenshots of the basic rules are rearranged from those in the original Starter Set...
the rules that are identical between the Starter Set, PHB, Basic rules, and Essentials Kit.
So I think we will see the revised core basic rules of the game in their entirety, based on nearly a decade of feedback and Sage Advice work.
I really don't expect any fundamental changes, but things like you suggest there certainly seem plausible. I'd look at the 38 pages of the Sage Advice Compendium for suspects for rewriting (though again, not at a fundamental level). But we do know own from the screenshits that the new Starter Set is shaking things up in that core area, and I suspect it's what we will see reprinted in the nee Core books.Wow. So you are expecting some game engine updates?
Things like clarifying unarmed strike versus natural weapon versus melee weapon attack?
The rearrangements could be cosmetic for ease of access. But you suspected they add, delete, and or tweak rules?
I would argue that D&D 4th edition was a pretty big flop.This sort of thing isn't without precedent...I mean, "New Coke" was a thing that happened. But it would have to be a royal flop, on the same magnitude as New Coke. Unlikely, but possible I suppose.
Calling it 6th edition helps new players avoid any confusion on which set of rules they're buying.What advantage does WotC gain by calling it 6e?
I mean, we already know some of the changes. "Race" will become "Ancestry" and will (to some extent or another) de-emphasize rigid ability score associations, for example. And it's pretty clear they're switching to PB/LR resources rather than SR resources, even if they haven't explicitly said that.What kind of new rules do you suspect we will see?
(Druid becoming owlbear is no big deal. It is still the same game engine.)
If they don't actually call it 5.5e, then yes, calling it D&D 50th Anniversary Edition or "5th Edition 50th Anniversary" or something like that is almost certainly what they'll do. Which means we'll probably end up calling it 5.50 or the like.I suspect WotC will never call the anniversary edition "5.5".
In the past designers regretted doing "3.5" in hindsight. They felt it would be better to just plan toward a new edition with substantial changes.
So, it will either be 5e or 6e − or a noncommittal "anniversary edition".
When the new books are released, the old ones will be removed from production. Indeed, that will happen some time before 5.5e releases, in the hope that any stocks out there will be depleted before the release. So they shouldn't be in competition with each other.It just struck me, what if WotC revises the core books but the originals continue to sell like they do now? What happens if they outperform the new core books? What happens if they out preform them a lot?
for how long? I assume at that point 5e can only sell what is in the channel still, WotC won’t be printing more.What would you do if you were WotC?
What do you think WotC would do?
It just struck me, what if WotC revises the core books but the originals continue to sell like they do now? What happens if they outperform the new core books? What happens if they out preform them a lot?
I think they're going to just straight-up replace the line and stop printing the 5E PHB, DMG and MM, as well as ceasing to sell them on D&D Beyond.I resurrect this thread and ask
Now what do you think?