What's with all the hate on for planet Zeist?

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Huh? I didn't realize there were any.

Starman

Agreed. No one could have been crazy enough to make sequels...it would never be as good as the first.

 

[buzzard]

Hey, can't a guy like a movie without being called a troll? Imagine if I had started a thread talking about how I liked the Two Towers? Would that be a troll? Or is it that its OK to talk about liking some movies that have already been deemed worthy but not like other based on the relative unpopularity of that movie? So far I see 5 posts calling me a troll and 1 post actually answering the question.

Personally I think that as a science fiction movie, Highlander 2 stands up well.

The reaction is predicated on the fact that the movie is abysmally bad (by virtue of a general concensus that abhors it). Thus either you have an opinion which is way out there, or you are trolling. Honestly, my assumption that you are trolling is IMHO generous. To have an opinion that Highlander 2 was good would IMHO qualify you for the loony bin.

buzzard

 

[Rackhir]

A. The Explanation for why there were immortals was unecessary.
B. The Explanation was stupid and clumsy. I remember when they were trying to explain it in the movie, you could tell the actors couldn't even believe it.
C. The movie was so bad that it transcends mere awfulness and attains a state of such stupifying terribleness that in some ways it is actually worth watching, simply because it IS so monumentally awful. It's like a train wreck, you just can't look away.
D The movie was so incoherently written, edited and produced that it should be taught in film school as an example of how not to make a movie. I remember one scene where they literally contradicted themselves from one sentence to the next.

I have a suspicion that you probably saw the movie when you were much younger and probably incapable of understanding the true depths of awfulness that the movie posesses. Some things are best left as fond childhood memories. I found this out when I watched an episode of Speed Racer a few years ago.

BTW http://www.imdb.com/bottom_100_films
Highlander II is rated as the 76th worst film ever made.

Interestingly, though Druids (listed under it's french title for some reason) is rated the 36th worst movie of all time. Lambert certainly knows how to make a bad movie.

Trivia point - He didn't know how to speak english in the first film. He was taught to speak his lines phonetically.

 

[nHammer]

I don't get it. Highlander 2 is far and away the best Highlander movie in the series. It was good to get the background behind the immortals. The shield was an interesting plot device, and Michael Ironsides made a much better villain than the dude in the first one. Some of the scenes, such as the one where Sean Connery's character bought the farm, were incredibly deep and meaningful. Plus this one didn't have rampant flash-forwards and flashbacks.

Now I admit that the theatrical release kind of sucked, but the special edition more than makes up for it. By comparison #3 and #4 were absolutely horrid. I think they should have continued along the storyline they established in #2 rather than go off on more tangeants about immortals that somehow escaped the gathering.

And what's not cool about spikey alien immportals on flying skateboards? Movie gold, this is!

But I guess that's just my taste in movies.

Is it April First already?

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

A. The Explanation for why there were immortals was unecessary.
B. The Explanation was stupid and clumsy. I remember when they were trying to explain it in the movie, you could tell the actors couldn't even believe it.
C. The movie was so bad that it transcends mere awfulness and attains a state of such stupifying terribleness that in some ways it is actually worth watching, simply because it IS so monumentally awful. It's like a train wreck, you just can't look away.
D The movie was so incoherently written, edited and produced that it should be taught in film school as an example of how not to make a movie. I remember one scene where they literally contradicted themselves from one sentence to the next.

I have a suspicion that you probably saw the movie when you were much younger and probably incapable of understanding the true depths of awfulness that the movie posesses. Some things are best left as fond childhood memories. I found this out when I watched an episode of Speed Racer a few years ago.

BTW http://www.imdb.com/bottom_100_films
Highlander II is rated as the 76th worst film ever made.

Good answer Rackhir, that about sums up MO on Highlander II as well.

One of these days I'm going to pick up Highlander II: Renegade which is the version which has every mention of Zeist edited out, or at least that's what I've heard.

 

[Squire James]

Highlander 2 would have made a decent sci-fi flick... if it weren't associated with Highlander at all.

Imagine a LotR sequel. A lot of cool hype ensues, and anticipation builds. Now imagine if Gandalf sailed back to Middle-Earth, and revealed to Samwise Gamgee that Valinor was the name of a planet in another solar system, and that Elves and Wizards and Balrogs and such were from different planets throughout the galaxy (and that "elven ships" were spaceworthy). Morgoth (Sauron's master before the spikey helmet got passed down to him) was due to make another appearance soon, because he escaped from the imprisonment of the Valar (sort of the equivalent of the Green Lantern Corps). Even if the special effects were awesome, every fan of LotR would hate it with a passion.

It's sorta like that...

 

[Kai Lord]

I don't get it.

And I don't get all the love for the original Highlander. Third rate fantasy on the same shelf as Beastmaster 2 and Red Sonja. Let's say Highlander 2 (which I have never bothered myself with actually watching) really was a collosal step down from the first film. That would be like crying that a He-Man sequel desmystified the premise of Dolph Lundgren's Masters of the Universe.

 

[Darrin Drader]

And I don't get all the love for the original Highlander. Third rate fantasy on the same shelf as Beastmaster 2 and Red Sonja. Let's say Highlander 2 (which I have never bothered myself with actually watching) really was a collosal step down from the first film. That would be like crying that a He-Man sequel desmystified the premise of Dolph Lundgren's Masters of the Universe.

EXACTLY!

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Highlander was a cool flick, I've got it on DVD. But for some reason I never saw any of the sequals.

 

[Mog Elffoe]

And I don't get all the love for the original Highlander. Third rate fantasy on the same shelf as Beastmaster 2 and Red Sonja. Let's say Highlander 2 (which I have never bothered myself with actually watching) really was a collosal step down from the first film. That would be like crying that a He-Man sequel desmystified the premise of Dolph Lundgren's Masters of the Universe.

The trick to watching Masters of the Universe is to not think of it as He-Man, but as Jack Kirby's Fourth World comics brought to life. Every time they say 'He-Man,' think 'Orion' instead. Every time they say 'Skeletor,' think 'Darkseid.' I mean, the movie has parademons and boom tubes, even!