What's with all the hate on for planet Zeist?

[satori01]

EXACTLY!

So you started this whole thread just to say you didnt like the highlander movies. Thats Greaaattt!!!

Can we pleas recycle this thread so our planet and very lives do not become inadated with....well this.

/sigh/

 

[Greyhawk_DM]

Huh? I didn't realize there were any.

Starman

There's not...Any other rumors you may have heard, are just that...rumors....

 

[enworldatemylogin]

I see it like this.

Highlander, the first movie was interesting and fun to watch.

Highlander 2 was horrible as it demystified everything.

Highlander 3 was so so, but mostly just repeated everything in the first movie. If you ignored everything from the 2nd movie, which this movie did, it added a bit to the mythology.

Then Highlander 4 came along. Despite every miss giving I had I saw it and after walking out of the theater, actually, while I was sitting in the theater agape wondering how they could do this, I then had to rewrite Highlander in my own head.

Thus Highlander 2 IS THE BEST sequal.

I understand they want to make new movies with Adrian Paul, but I'm sorry I've already wasted enough time and money on this franchise.

 

[Starman]

There's not...Any other rumors you may have heard, are just that...rumors....

Whew! That's a load off my mind. I was worried that maybe the suits in Hollywood had gotten out of touch with the average movie-goer and thought that we would be suckered in some cheap ploy. Glad I was wrong.

Starman

 

[Eosin the Red]

I kinda find Highlander is similar to Bladerunner, a film that despite its shortfalls, transends itself and becomes something more. A B-movie that still gets rented and watched today. I don't think you can explain it...it just is.


TRUE STORY
I dreamed that I saw the second movie during a blizzard. I should have been at work but they closed my work place down. I caught my girlfriend of 4 months at the show with another guy. After the show she wanted to talk but I was too upset. She wanted to discuss our relationship but I was way too distraught over the butchering of the Highlander mythology to be consoled. I kept saying "can you believe they did that!!" She kept saying "I hope you aren't mad." and I would say "Of course I am mad, can you believe they did that!!"

Ok maybe it wasn't that bad but it was pretty damn close. Later she would get mad at me for not getting mad at her and caring more about the movie.

 

[jdavis]

Good answer Rackhir, that about sums up MO on Highlander II as well.

One of these days I'm going to pick up Highlander II: Renegade which is the version which has every mention of Zeist edited out, or at least that's what I've heard.

Trust me changing Planet Ziest to "A long long time ago" doesn't amke the movie any better, it acutally confuses it more (and that's hard to do in the case of Highlander 2).

 

[jdavis]

I don't get it. Highlander 2 is far and away the best Highlander movie in the series. It was good to get the background behind the immortals. The shield was an interesting plot device, and Michael Ironsides made a much better villain than the dude in the first one. Some of the scenes, such as the one where Sean Connery's character bought the farm, were incredibly deep and meaningful. Plus this one didn't have rampant flash-forwards and flashbacks.

Now I admit that the theatrical release kind of sucked, but the special edition more than makes up for it. By comparison #3 and #4 were absolutely horrid. I think they should have continued along the storyline they established in #2 rather than go off on more tangeants about immortals that somehow escaped the gathering.

And what's not cool about spikey alien immportals on flying skateboards? Movie gold, this is!

But I guess that's just my taste in movies.

Here I'll assume that you may be feverish or drank too much robatussin or something along the lines of temperary insanity and I'll explain what Highlander 2 means to me.

Lets say that when you were little somebody brought you a puppy for Christmas. You love the little puppy and you play with it and it becomes your best friend in the whole world, Every day is a little brighter because you have this cute little puppy dog in your life. Then one day while you are at school some horrible person with a baseball bat breaks into your house, grabs your prized puppy and then savagely beats to death every single member of your family, they all die in horrible agony. Then they put the puppy and the baseball bat down next to the family and leave. See not only was Highlander 2 a horrid life altering tragedy it also didn't make any damn sense at all. There are many movies out there that that may be bad enough to make you feel like your family died but only Highlander 2 would try to frame a puppy dog for the crime (the renagade version tells the police the neighbor's cat must of done it). This movie offended me personally.

 

[WizarDru]

This movie offended me personally.

I remember when the movie came out. A friend of mine went to see it, and we arranged to meet afterwards to go out to dinner. He and his friend met up with another friend and I, and we both noticed he looked pale and drawn. I asked him how the movie was, and he told me "I'm not sure if I should go with you to the restaurant, or head home and get a shower. I feel dirty." He honestly felt violated....a movie he truly enjoyed had been sorely misused by it's sequel.

The appeal of the first Highlander film was that it was a nice mixture of modern and historical fantasy, with an awesome soundtrack, made capably for a modest budget and released with little fanfare or hype. The original movie wasn't a blockbuster, and at the time, it was a little film that became a cult hit. It cost $16 million to make, and only made it's money back with a combination of US and International receipts. Compare that with Aliens, which came out the same year, with a budget of $18 million and a gross of $85 million in the US alone (why was highlander so expensive in comparison? Location shots and Sean Connery).

Oh, and Rackhir...my kids love Speed Racer. Yeah, the animation is painfully bad and the dubbing is horrible...but it still has a quirky charm.

 

[Rackhir]

Oh, and Rackhir...my kids love Speed Racer. Yeah, the animation is painfully bad and the dubbing is horrible...but it still has a quirky charm.

Yeah, I still look very fondly on the series and watching it as a child is something I would strongly recomend. The Mach 5 is one of the all time coolest cars and the wacko villians and plots were fun. But when filtered through the jaded, cynical perceptions of an adult, decades after watching the episodes, I found it painful to watch.

Children don't have the self-awareness and experience to analyze the plots and other characteristics, they can just accept things as they are and not look critically at it. I wish I could still look at somethings like that, but I just can't do it anymore. Which is why I say somethings are best left as fond childhood memories.

PS: Seph's current story hour is the "The Mésalliance. Part 1" you might want to update your sig.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Someone tell me I read a prior post wrong and it DIDN'T call Bladerunner a B movie. I know I didnt' read that. No, I couldn't have. No, no, no!