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5E Which class(es) won the PHB?

Which class(es) won the PHB? (Pick up to 3)

  • Barbarian

    Votes: 8 7.0%
  • Bard

    Votes: 29 25.2%
  • Cleric

    Votes: 19 16.5%
  • Druid

    Votes: 8 7.0%
  • Fighter

    Votes: 39 33.9%
  • Monk

    Votes: 22 19.1%
  • Paladin

    Votes: 21 18.3%
  • Ranger

    Votes: 4 3.5%
  • Rogue

    Votes: 24 20.9%
  • Sorcerer

    Votes: 13 11.3%
  • Warlock

    Votes: 50 43.5%
  • Wizard

    Votes: 39 33.9%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .

TwoSix

The hero you deserve
Supporter
Ok, so "won" is a little tongue-in-cheek. I'm curious what class you think fared the best in the initial release, based on some combination of fidelity to concept, interesting subclasses, exciting class features, and a general gut feeling that this class is going to be cool to try out.

My #1 choice is warlock. Tons of options, between the pacts and the invocations, and spell choice is going to play a major role in differentiating between two warlocks. Short rest spell slots will be a lot of fun to play with.

My second choice is wizard. Neo-vancian casting works great for wizards, who have the largest spell selection in the game. The wizard schools really do a nice job at making wizards feel different, with some really offbeat and funky mechanics. An abjurer's reactive ward, a diviner's enhanced spellcasting, and the transmuter's "philosopher's stone" are all great examples.
 

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exile

First Post
Cleric... though my reasoning is very shoddy.

I picked cleric because it's the first character I chose to make from the new PHB. I modeled her on a strength based cleric that I played throughout most of 4e/LFR. She's not a perfect conversion, but if I were to set down with friends who played with the 4e version of her, they would be like "oh, Aleena, it's good to see you again."
 

mcintma

First Post
My second choice is wizard. Neo-vancian casting works great for wizards, who have the largest spell selection in the game. The wizard schools really do a nice job at making wizards feel different, with some really offbeat and funky mechanics. An abjurer's reactive ward, a diviner's enhanced spellcasting, and the transmuter's "philosopher's stone" are all great examples.
In a sense they have the largest selection, in a sense the smallest. I've played for DMs that do not provide many scrolls/spellbooks or scribing downtime. Just felt the need to point that out, as I wonder what the designers' assumptions were for that.

I think the Rogue (one of my 2 fav classes), Fighter, and Bard (9th level spells!!! More spells known that a Sorcerer IIRC) came out on top in 5e. But time and playtesting will reveal the truth ...
 

Pillsy

First Post
I picked:

  • Wizards, who get a spell preparation mechanic that's a little more flexible than what we used to have, while still feeling like the old "memorization" in a way that isn't quite so tied to a weird interpretation of the way magic worked in Jack Vance's The Dying Earth. Also, school specializationmechanic is finally really fun and flavorful.
  • Rogues, who have simple mechanics that really do a good job emphasizing their mobility and stealthiness, and look like they'll provide a fun tactical challenge for players.
  • Monks, mainly because I like the different martial arts styles and think the ki ​point mechanic looks promising.
 

greymarch

First Post
My order

My initial order after reading the entire PHB a few times. This is very, very preliminary:

Sorcerer > Wizard > Bard > Fighter > Barbarian > Warlock > Monk > Rogue > Cleric > Druid > Paladin > Ranger
 

Zelc

First Post
I voted for Bards, Druids, and Warlock.

After the 3.5 and Pathfinder Bards, the 5th edition Bard is amazing! I'd be excited to play a Bard, and an inexperienced Bard player won't drag the group down.

Warlocks have a lot of flavor and interesting mechanics. I love how they have few spell slots, but they come back after a short rest.

Druids I voted just because the new Wild Shape mechanic is inspired and much easier to track than in 3.5/Pathfinder.


Honorable mentions would go to the Monk (hurray for not-sucky monks!), Wizards/Clerics (every specialization/domain is cool), and Rogues (hurray for not sucky Rogues! also fits the sneaky skirmishing archetype much better than 3.5/Pathfinder).


Goat award goes to the Ranger. Even if they don't suck, their abilities are hard to evaluate because they're so situational and different. The class seems to run into itself a lot with many options occupying the same action slot (Giant Killer and Uncanny Dodge/Stand Against the Tide; Ranger's Companion and attacking).
 

Chriscdoa

First Post
I picked:

Bard, full caster and lots of other goodness.
Rogue, good in combat and out of.
Paladin, good damage and excellent party support.

in general i think all the classes look good except barbarian and ranger.
 

epochrpg

First Post
I chose Fighter. Much improved over previous playtests. Barbarian just.... ARG! Weaker in each succeeding playtest, and now much less versatile, too (no Dex-based Barbarian options). I can see liking it if you want to be Strong do lots of damage with strength and get hit all the time, but now much less versatile. I also don't much care for the totem path getting "spells". Barbarians aren't rangers or druids.

In previous playtests my "Barbarian" was re-skinned as a "Ninja" who used all the dex-based stuff (Hawk Totem) and the "rage" was actually a "combat trance". She could use Dex to hit (she just didn't get the damage bonus because it wasn't STR based). Now she's just not going to use a lot of the abilities (she isn't reckless, and her main weapons are dex-based, so no reason to use reckless attack). She'll still "rage" but now it is just damage reduction (she blocks attacks with her arm).

I hope that the Dex-barian comes back in a future book, in the meantime I'll just be less effective at fighting I guess and also refuse to use the "spells" that the animal totem stuff gives (it's not her style).
 

Rogues, at least the thief one I have seen.


That bonus action to move around and hide is so elegantly simple....but opens up a thousand ways to showcase mobility, stealth, acrobatics, and other stunts.
 

Gladius Legis

Adventurer
I picked Rogue, Paladin and Fighter.


  • All 3 Rogue builds are looking very nice in their own way. Thief is the most versatile, Assassin is not as versatile but is dadgum good at what it's supposed to do (150+ damage on any surprise round at Lv. 17 wut), and Arcane Trickster presents an interesting and effective take on the Rogue in its own right.
  • Paladin of Vengeance is one of the top damage builds so far (doing the math that dude can easily break over 100 DPR against AC 15). The other Oaths don't do nearly that damage but still fill their niches nicely (Devotion pretty much giving the middle finger to fiends and undead at high level, Ancients' aura of cut all magic attack damage in half against the whole party). And I like how the wording of Devotion's tenets nip the "lawful stupid" trope right in the bud.
  • Battle Master Fighter is looking very dynamic, with many diverse and effective builds possible. Maneuvers are well done and evocative. Also really liking the Eldritch Knight and its possibilities.

I'm also very pleased with the Bard and Warlock. I even like the Monk this time around (and yay, Quivering Palm is actually useful).

I like the Ranger a bit more than I did at initial glance. I just need to get over the fact that it's never going to be a combat machine (although its base DPR at least is acceptable). It's a stud at exploration, though.

I'm not a Barbarian fan, but the Berserker is a damage champ (if a bit boring), right up there with the Paladin of Vengeance. Not sold on the Totem Warrior, though, except maybe the first Wolf benefit. Other than that, the only class I'm not really into is the Sorcerer.
 
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TwoSix

The hero you deserve
Supporter
I chose Fighter. Much improved over previous playtests. Barbarian just.... ARG! Weaker in each succeeding playtest, and now much less versatile, too (no Dex-based Barbarian options). I can see liking it if you want to be Strong do lots of damage with strength and get hit all the time, but now much less versatile. I also don't much care for the totem path getting "spells". Barbarians aren't rangers or druids.

In previous playtests my "Barbarian" was re-skinned as a "Ninja" who used all the dex-based stuff (Hawk Totem) and the "rage" was actually a "combat trance". She could use Dex to hit (she just didn't get the damage bonus because it wasn't STR based). Now she's just not going to use a lot of the abilities (she isn't reckless, and her main weapons are dex-based, so no reason to use reckless attack). She'll still "rage" but now it is just damage reduction (she blocks attacks with her arm).

I hope that the Dex-barian comes back in a future book, in the meantime I'll just be less effective at fighting I guess and also refuse to use the "spells" that the animal totem stuff gives (it's not her style).
I feel you, man. Playtest barbarian was pretty great. I'm still bummed about the loss of the playtest Sorcerer, personally. I have most of the playtest packets saved, but I'm missing that one, so I can't even try to make a houseruled version. Argh.
 

Valetudo

Explorer
I picked warlock, fighter and rogue. Almost every other class comes in a close 4th though. Subclasses turned out a great way too add some umph to the classes. EK and AT for the fighter and rogue are looking really good as a way to gish your PC. Im a little disappointed because battlemaster falls short in making a true warlord, but I expected this and will live(if just barely). Monks are sounding like a good version this edition, but I still need to see them in play before I commit to that statement. I usually tend to play clerics, warlords, or dwarven fighter/clerics that specialize in defense( that last one looks better off going pally/cleric this time around). Sorcerers, druids and rangers seem to be the classes Im least interested in. What can I say about the warlock, other than they look sick. You can do alot of different things with them, its alomost like they have 9 subclasses the way you mix up praton and specialty.
 

Gradine

Final Form
I went with Fighter, Bard and Warlock, though Rogue and Sorcerer were close competition. I love how varied the Fighter subclasses are, Lore Bard is probably the greatest full spellcaster, and Warlock is dripping with awesome flavor. Rogue is really close, especially with Arcane Trickster. Sorcerer badly needs some love; Wild Magic is finally back and it's wonderful.
 

Joe Liker

First Post
Wizard: Finally -- FINALLY -- a wizard spell system that doesn't suck, not to mention the thought that went into the subclasses! Every one is a subclass I'd love to play.

Warlock: Because reasons mentioned above. Yep, it's a crazy-interesting class from both an RP and a character-building perspective.

But most of all, I'm going to say Paladin. I've never liked the class before, but I'd totally play a 5e Paladin. It's like they've stripped away all the stupidity and left us to gnaw on the delicious goo inside. IME, players are more than capable of slathering on their own stupidity. Or, you know, roleplaying elements that are actually interesting rather than trite. Either way.
 

Paraxis

Explorer
Bard!

Full casting + magical secrets + (attack & spell) = win

Magical secrets is the gift that keeps on giving, every time a new broken spell comes out it is available to the bard, that and being able to cast 4th and 5th level paladin & ranger spells well before any paladin or ranger and more of them is just amazing.

After Bard I picked Fighter (all those attacks and action surge), and then Warlock (depends on how often you can squeeze short rests out of your DM, but eldritch blasts and invocations are just great).
 

Psikerlord#

Explorer
I went for Fighter (love battlemaster and EK), WArlock (just looks really fun and interesting esp with short rest resets) and Barbarian. I just really like the idea of trying a brute who absorbs lots of damage and then crushes all before him. I suspect I pick up the martial adept feat for the Barb to add in a few maneovers to keep him interesting, though. Overall though I like all the classes except ranger and sorceror.
 

TwoSix

The hero you deserve
Supporter
Hmm. Looks like Barbarian, Druid, Ranger, and Sorcerer are bringing up the rear. Interesting to note that all of these classes only have 2 subclasses. I think this may not be a coincidence.
 

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