D&D (2024) Why are you still playing D&D?

[TheSword]

sure, but when you count books published you can barely make out the WotC offerings in the sea of 3pp, and that is what I was talking about. There is so much to choose from that not using anything WotC is barely noticeable. That no one else has WotC’s sales is not really relevant

I have no problem identifying the WorC offerings. They’re the ones everyone’s talking about.

Just out of interest what great 5e campaigns are being published? What is there to get excited about in the 5e 3pp sphere? I’ve ran or played in several great 3pp adventure paths - Odyssey of the Dragonlords, Tales of the old Margrave, Kingmaker 5e, Scarlet Citadel and Dungeons of Drakkenheim. What am I missing out on?

 

[EzekielRaiden]

There were several people who repeatedly claimed it was or would be a catastrophic failure

"Several people" and "someone" are easy words. I've never seen it. I can promise you, the vast, extreme, utterly OVERWHELMING majority of people were nothing even remotely like that.

And even if they were, what on earth does that have to do with responding to the things I am saying?

You're arguing against points I didn't make...that you're explicitly recognizing that I didn't make...for no reason I can determine.

By the way if your definition of "everyone" doesn't really mean or even come close to the majority of people playing the game, why use the term "everyone's second favorite game"? Because for the people I play with? It sounds like a weird appeal to popularity .... when for at least 90% of the people I've actually played with over the years it's their favorite game. It's just odd.

It's not my phrase. I would never have called it that, nor even thought of it that way. 5e fanboys are the ones who used it.

That was what people said over and over and over while it was being playtested and during the first like 4-5 years of release. I always rather disliked the phrase--albeit for reasons radically different from yours. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the people who popularized it back then, not me.

It's not even like you aren't familiar with the phrasing, so I'm not sure why you'd take me to task for it.

 

[Imaro]

It's not my phrase. I would never have called it that, nor even thought of it that way. 5e fanboys are the ones who used it.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Do I really need to go digging for the posts here on ENWorld where people used it fully intending it to be seen as a 100% positive, "this proves how good this is" thing?

 

[MrTemplar]

I started with the white box and Greyhawk etc back in 1977 and enjoyed the concept, but not really the game. We played a little of 1 E AD&D, and then switched to other games, and did not play DND again until about 7 years ago when my oldest son and his wife needed more players for their game. I enjoyed the update enough to start playing at the FLGS, during their drop in AL games, and eventually became one of the regular DMS. Now that 2024 is out, many of the DND players have stayed with 2014 and most other AL DMs have stopped running AL, because they did not want to switch to the new rules or the general dismay with Hasbro, or both. I have taken opportunity to get the regulars (drop ins are rare now) to switch DND up with new games, the favorite of theirs being Cyberpunk Red. We just got through a long official hardcover adventure, and will be venturing for a few months into Night City and seeing what adventures will unfold under those eerie Red Night skies…

 

[jmartkdr2]

In the games I'm still in it's simply a lack f interest in switching. It works fine and we already know it.

This isn't so much "familiarity" since we probably would change if we had a reason to, we just lack a reason. So "inertia" is more accurate.

 

[EthanSental]

It’s fun and our table of players enjoy it.

 

[Retros_x]

I voted Convenience (also in terms of availability of additional content), but I also just like the game. Its a good game. I don't like when people try to frame it as a bad game. Is it my favorite game? Thats probably Shadowdark at the moment, but it is a good game and fun to play. This plus how easy it is to find players and a game keeps me playing.

 

[DEFCON 1]

"Official" versus using 3pp is pretty similar to the "iPhone vs Android" debate. Do you want a curated walled garden of apps, or something more open with the risk and reward that entails?

The irony of course being all the people who stay within the curated walled garden of apps... and yet complain about the "official" apps they get given and how they aren't very good.

This is why I always tell people to switch to "Android" and then take a little bit of time out of their day to curate the more open space themselves and finds those rewards while mitigating the risks. But they don't ever really do that because apparently it's more fun to spend hours here on EN World just complaining about crap rules or not being given rules they want than it is to go out and find the rules they'd actually like and use, LOL.

A lot of DMs seem really lazy in that regard.

 

[der_kluge]

Honestly, I think all the first 5 options apply to me. Also, I love fantasy role-playing. So, if I didn't play D&D, I'd probably play something like Valiant, or Draw Steel, or DC20, or Low Fantasy Gaming, or something along those lines. I'd be unlikely to switch to Star Wars or Shadowrun - not that I haven't played them before, and enjoyed them, but I always come back to D&D because I just love the fantasy genre.