Why do women send mixed signals?

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Look, want some advice about learning about social interaction?

Maybe, maybe not, but you'll get it anyway.

WATCH! That's it. That's how children learn. Watch people socially interact with one another, rent movies (you know the kind, often referred to as "chick flicks") and carefully watch them. Learn when it is appropriate to smile, when it is appropriate to laugh (When she is describing how her father's parachute didn't open and he slammed into the top of the car and was killed is NOT an appropriate time to bust up laughing, trust me) and what facial expressions are commonly used. Practice those expressions in a mirror.

Record your own voice saying certian things and replay it, adjusting your tone, cadence and wording until it sounds appropriate.

It can be done, you just have to put forth a lot of effort, and most people would rather use whatever it is that keeps them from properly interacting with the walking meatsacks as an excuse rather than work on seemlessly fitting into the social setting.

Despite what some people believe, being able to interact on a social level can be a lot of work. If you are serious, I suggest the following:

Language classes. It'lll help you with speaking.
Manners lessons. It'll help you with proper social interactions.
Health classes. It'll show you how other people react as far as emotions to what stimuli.
Group therapy. Watch other people for thier reactions, but do NOT use them to base your own. Instead, watch the counsellour.
Therapy. If you get to the point you can successful fool the counsellor into thinking you're good, you've got that down.
Bood/Poetry Clubs. Find out the proper emotional response and the proper social displays of those responses.

That'll do for a start.
 

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Warlord Ralts said:
Bood/Poetry Clubs. Find out the proper emotional response and the proper social displays of those responses.

ITYM "Blood/Poetry Clubs".

HTH! -- N
 



nerfherder said:
LOL! And there was me trying to work out what on earth a Blood/Poetry Club would involve... :eek:

Cheers,
Liam

Lots of goth kids meeting at Starbucks and cutting themselves? ;)

--Impeesa--
 


I looked it up out of curiosity, and here's what the site showed me...
Asperger's Syndrome, also known as Asperger's Disorder or Autistic Psychopathy, is a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) characterized by severe and sustained impairment in social interaction, development of restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, and activities. These characteristics result in clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

Hmmm, if this shows up later in life, my advice is to turn off the computer and X-Box and go outside.

I've got a nephew who was autistic. He spent the first 6 years of his life banging his head on the floor and making weird noises.

I read the sites, I looked at it, then I took a look at a few support forums, and I just have HAVE to ask this...

Ken, are you paying attention to ANY of the advice presented in here, or are you just reading and saying: "I can't do that, dont you know I have Asperger's Syndrome?"

I really want to know.
 

Well, it depends on if she was honestly sending mixed signals, or simply made a mistake, and forgot it was a long weekend.

I find a good rule of thumb is the "three strikes you're out rule". One cancellation, as long as it's not her ditching you and just never showing up etc. is acceptable....things happen. A second time, and I'm getting suspicious, but if she's got good reasons, I'll give a last chance. If she backs out three times, I'm outta there.

I do think sometimes that it's not always that women send mixed signals.....sure, some do, but I know lots of guys who can't read the signals women send. It's like a woman has to club them over the head with a mallet to get them to pay attention.

Not saying that's you :) In your case, I'd give her another chance. Wait until after the long weekend....maybe Tue-Wed, and give her a call again. Don't call her on a Friday, because then it simply looks like you've got nothing to do.

Banshee
 

Warlord Ralts said:
Ken, are you paying attention to ANY of the advice presented in here, or are you just reading and saying: "I can't do that, dont you know I have Asperger's Syndrome?"

I really want to know.

Allow me to field this one...

Not a word of it.

In fact, he has not only failed to listen to any of the advice, but has taken it in, and done some thinking...

Kenm said:
...I did some thinking, I think people with AS that don't like to socialize are better off then people that always have to do that BS to feel good about themselves. We see that stuff for what it really is and everyone elses gets uptight when we don't play the raindeer games like everyone else does...

Apparently Aspergers is humanity's next step in evolution.

He has also managed to ask and re-ask the same series of querstions over and over (apparently beleiving they are rhetorical). They aren't

"Why don't people just tell the truth?" has been answered endlessly since early in the first page.

His endless examples of "lying being bad" that follow show that the message is simply not getting through.

And I'm afraid that's basically it: the message isn't going to get through. There are all manner of non-pharmeceutical means for treating Aspergers.

Ken wants none of them because...

Kenm said:
God made me this way. If he wants He can change the way I am. I did not ask to be this way, God screwed me by making me this way. But I will not take drugs or pretend to be fake.

"Pretend to be fake" is apparently what behavioral therapy is called where Ken comes from.

So there's really no interest from him in dealing with his Asperger's Syndrome, just more mewling and whining about the way the world should be, rather than the way it is.

Kenm said:
So its ok for people not to do things some days and do them when the feel like it?

kenm said:
So when my boss asks me if I got done with that project when I'm not even half done I should say "its all set." When its not? Its ok I guess.

And on and on.

I think this final quote tells you everything you need to know about this thread...

kenm said:
...Someone else said I'm using AS as an excuse for how I act. I don't see it like that. I have it, so I have to accept it and learn to work with what I have. Thats how I look at it. I know some people will say "try to learn to change your behaivor, ect.." . To me this like trying to tell someone that is blind to "just learn to use your eyes." They are both disabalities, other peole need to learn to accept peole with them instead of trying to change them...

There's the whole story right there.

  • He knows he has Asperger's Syndrome
  • He knows he has to "accept it and learn to work with what he has"
  • He equates it with being blind (without apparently realizing that blind people learn to walk with canes, read braille and any number of other things that mitigate their disability)

    And in the final sentence...
  • Places the onus on the rest of the world to change to suit him

He's looking for someone to agree with him that all lying is wrong, women need to stop playing games, and thatthe world needs to change to suit his needs.

I'm not that person. I doubt you are either.
 
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Warlord Ralts said:
Ken, are you paying attention to ANY of the advice presented in here, or are you just reading and saying: "I can't do that, dont you know I have Asperger's Syndrome?"

I really want to know.


I have not done that, but only recently been diagnosed with AS, I tryed to be aware and work on it. Looking back now I saw how my AS effected my older reltionships. That last realtionship I had with that other women I mentioned here. The one that would say we were just friends but sleep right against me. When we started to become frinds and posssibly more (before the heavy kissing/ sleeping in same bed), I told her flat out that I have trouble reading social cues and body languge. And for Her to be direct with me always. Too bad she was not. In the future when I meet someone that I'm interested in I will tell then I have AS and they need to be direct, I will do my best to see what you mean, but to please be direct with me.
TB, thanks for speaking for me. You know me so well. I have been taking all this advice in and thinking about my best action. Do not judge me, now that was an attack, IMO. I will not sink to your level and attack you back.
Blind people learn to use canes, ect.. I'm learning to work with my AS, in my own way. At the end of the day, the blind person is still blind, and I still have AS. Thats all I'm saying.
 
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