D&D 5E Why Not? A Variant Captain Fighter

[doctorbadwolf]

I am a bit despondent about success at properly enriching the 5e fighter in a manner It seems like it ought to be. 5e stripped out a lot of handles , like that charge and marking. I looked at the Cavalier closer and it looks like its not nearly as capable of defender in many ways even at high level as a level 1 4e fighter. For example you know how come and get it is cool? Look at this one charge into a bunch of enemies and mark all of them around you. There is no real way to even give the Cavalier something simple like this.
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Why not simply make a maneuver that marks every enemy within 10ft of you?

 

[Garthanos]

Why not simply make a maneuver that marks every enemy within 10ft of you?

Cavaliers do not have Maneuvers without a feat to access... in effect design wise they gave them up for the defender abilities they have built in.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Cavaliers do not have Maneuvers without a feat to access... in effect design wise they gave them up for the defender abilities they have built in.

Use the UA fighting style that grants maneuvers.
Also a lot of per short rest power is packed into Action Surge. Make a variant option to trade it for 3 superiority Dice and 4 manuevers known.

 

[Garthanos]

Use the UA fighting style that grants maneuvers.

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Also a lot of per short rest power is packed into Action Surge. Make a variant option to trade it for 3 superiority Dice and 4 manuevers known.

hmmm good point but I think balance wise it scales like your extra attacks it adds 1 superiority die when its gained and 1 each time you gain an extra attack. So at level 5 you have 2 superiority die and know three maneuvers and by 11, 3 superiority die and know 4

That is only for one surge... so I am off if you use all your surges tada we get more out of it indeed.

This is actually a perfect idea what if you could use a Kata or Training Sequence to convert your Action Surge into CS die and focus maneuvers in in advance of the situation you can spend an 1/2 hour training to do it ie... yes you know more than you have have been focusing on? but if you exert in a morning exercise you get more later.

@doctorbadwolf thanks for bringing that up ... lets not give up the Action Surge let's make an ability to dynamically choose that is how you want to go with it.

 

[Garthanos]

This project is perhaps too huge or I have too many ideas.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

This project is perhaps too huge or I have too many ideas.

I think a few optional variant rules, 6 or fewer new fighting styles, and 12 or fewer new manuevers, is the way to go.
And take a look at the Class Feature Variants unearthed Arcana.

 

[Garthanos]

Why not simply make a maneuver that marks every enemy within 10ft of you?

you know what why not now that we have some significant thematically appropriate ways for a subclass fighter to get some of these maneuvers we can just put defender themed ones in... so that a Cavalier will better compete with the Weaponmaster

 

[Garthanos]

I have started up a project on GMBinder for this but havent got far yet

 

[Garthanos]

@Xeviat this is where I have been mulling over the idea of trading attacks for maneuvers

 

[Garthanos]

Can a maneuver modify second wind so that it affects allies? Well why not? Or honestly is it really a problem if it just does... I am thinking we are already eating some of the subclasses with this idea anyhow.

Hmmm I guess I have been trying to not eat subclasses but rather make them work even better...