Why not make the rapier military?

[corwyn77]

It allows two primary attacks, and each primary attack that hits grants a secondary attack. The text isn't very clear, but that is the most straightforward way to read it and Cust Serv has confirmed.

Cust Serv confirmed? Really, how long ago? Because this was errataed, or clarified in some people's minds, long ago. It grants a single 3rd attack. OTOH, it doesn't require a hit of any kind to get 3 attacks. It's been updated in CB for a while now.

 

[eamon]

Cust Serv confirmed? Really, how long ago? Because this was errataed, or clarified in some people's minds, long ago. It grants a single 3rd attack. OTOH, it doesn't require a hit of any kind to get 3 attacks. It's been updated in CB for a while now.

Holy unwitting thread necro...
jaelis posted correctly... in 2008. It was updated in 2009. And now, in 2010 - yes, you're right .

Savevsdeath resurrected this thread, which argued for a change that is now finally being made - interesting how many such enworld suggestions make it .

 

[Prestidigitalis]

*cough* The average of a d4 is (1+2+3+4)/4 = 2.5 and the average of a d8 is (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8)/8 = 4.5.

Thank you. My inner math pedant was straining at the leash.

 

[DracoSuave]

*cough* The average of a d4 is (1+2+3+4)/4 = 2.5 and the average of a d8 is (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8)/8 = 4.5. Your math is a little bit off but your point still stands. I also agree with the rapier's place in the weapon class table because a 1d8 light blade renders the 1d6 short short effectively useless. Offhand just isn't worth that extra +1 damage.

Now imagine it in the hands of a +1 to hit with rapiers like it were a dagger thief from Essentials.

 

[Ainamacar]

Thank you. My inner math pedant was straining at the leash.

Same here, and I was doubly glad it was already corrected back in the day once I noticed the thread's strong aura of necromancy.

And I completely missed the change in HotFL, so I'm glad I happened across this thread.

 

[DracoSuave]

Just to play Devil's Advocate...this ain't 3e. At any given level you shouldn't assume a primary attack will hit at any better than even-money or so.

*cough* the math actually evens out at 60%, and fighters have their inherent bonus on top of that....