heliopolix
First Post
Here's a situation to ponder. Theres an 11th lvl druid. Theyve just been thru a tough combat, and are likely to rest up before the next encounter. There are a several pc's bleeding to death, so, though the combat is over, i keep the initiative going to make sure they all get healed. The druid is down to 3 HP, and decides not to wait to for the cleric to come heal him (as they can hear noises futher down the corrider), so he uses his last wildshape so he can gain the benefits of resting a day. Unfortunately, he also has a Am of +4 Con. Wildshape says your items meld into you and become non-functional when in wildshape. (he's more of a csty-druid so this tends not to be an issue. He mainly uses WS ti heal, as now.) When EXACTLY does said healing take place? AS you transform? Immediately after you transform?
I see two ways thing scould have gone:
1) After: He wildshapes so all his items become inert. The loss of 4 con costs him 22 HP. The healing from WS hasn't kicked in yet, so he's at -19 Hp and dies.
2) AS: As he Wildshapes, and his Amulet dissapears, he heals 11hp, then loses 22. hets at -8, and is stable (you dont bleed if negative from HP loss from con loss IIRC).
I went with #2, just because I felt that the healing should occur as you transmute. Thoughts and ideas from you all?
On a humourous note - he's now the "walking-dead-man druid", in reference to the barbarians possibility to out-right die when dropping out of rage. It was pretty funny:
Player : I wildshape into a Brown bear, so i can rest as if i'd slept for a night.
Me: What level are you again? (remembering that he'd gotten the am of +4 con from the last loot)
Player: 11
Me: Hrmmm... (does some quick mental calculations) Ok, you fall over, unconscious. You're at -8 HP, but your not bleeding.
Players: WTF????
Me: Well... (explains above, also that if he'd had 1 hp when he'd wildshaped, he'd have been dead. This was almost the case, as the last hit on him i had miscalculated in an earlier round with full str damage for an off-hand attack, which was larger than 1/2 str by 2 points. I had realized my mistake, and had corrected it [luckily] right before the druid declared he was gonna wildshape)
Player: (remembers, goes pale)
Player B: Whoa. thats one barbaric druid. Walking-dead-man-style.
Player: Wildshape is deadly.
All: (laugh, relieved)
Another humourous note is that you no longer drop out of Polymorph/WS when unconscious, only dead. If he'd have reverted to normal form when unconscious, he'd have gotten the am back and been conscious again.
I see two ways thing scould have gone:
1) After: He wildshapes so all his items become inert. The loss of 4 con costs him 22 HP. The healing from WS hasn't kicked in yet, so he's at -19 Hp and dies.
2) AS: As he Wildshapes, and his Amulet dissapears, he heals 11hp, then loses 22. hets at -8, and is stable (you dont bleed if negative from HP loss from con loss IIRC).
I went with #2, just because I felt that the healing should occur as you transmute. Thoughts and ideas from you all?
On a humourous note - he's now the "walking-dead-man druid", in reference to the barbarians possibility to out-right die when dropping out of rage. It was pretty funny:
Player : I wildshape into a Brown bear, so i can rest as if i'd slept for a night.
Me: What level are you again? (remembering that he'd gotten the am of +4 con from the last loot)
Player: 11
Me: Hrmmm... (does some quick mental calculations) Ok, you fall over, unconscious. You're at -8 HP, but your not bleeding.
Players: WTF????
Me: Well... (explains above, also that if he'd had 1 hp when he'd wildshaped, he'd have been dead. This was almost the case, as the last hit on him i had miscalculated in an earlier round with full str damage for an off-hand attack, which was larger than 1/2 str by 2 points. I had realized my mistake, and had corrected it [luckily] right before the druid declared he was gonna wildshape)
Player: (remembers, goes pale)
Player B: Whoa. thats one barbaric druid. Walking-dead-man-style.
Player: Wildshape is deadly.
All: (laugh, relieved)
Another humourous note is that you no longer drop out of Polymorph/WS when unconscious, only dead. If he'd have reverted to normal form when unconscious, he'd have gotten the am back and been conscious again.
