James McMurray
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Just out of curiosity, what's this much vaunted formula you keep talking about?
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kreynolds
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James McMurray said:
Currently, it's in a damn Microsoft Word document, so I need to convert it out so that it doesn't look like hell. Also, I have been reluctant to post it due to the fact that such high level spells/items/abilities always result in flaming. If I can't get any positive feedback besides "MUNCHKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", why bother?
Well...
*I* AM running a high level campaign, so I'd love the formula
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The SR question was from one of my players (the guy that started this thread, *waves*). So, you guys think that the 5th level cleric spell permanced, would be one wish? I do agree that the level would be set at the time of casting, that does make sense. If you wanted it to be flexible... two wishes? Or two wishes just to get the 5th level cleric spell perm then another wish for it to go up as you level yourself? I am still getting used to 3rd edition wishes and I value the opinions in this forum, so all and any advice is appreciated.
-Arravis
*I* AM running a high level campaign, so I'd love the formula
. The SR question was from one of my players (the guy that started this thread, *waves*). So, you guys think that the 5th level cleric spell permanced, would be one wish? I do agree that the level would be set at the time of casting, that does make sense. If you wanted it to be flexible... two wishes? Or two wishes just to get the 5th level cleric spell perm then another wish for it to go up as you level yourself? I am still getting used to 3rd edition wishes and I value the opinions in this forum, so all and any advice is appreciated
.-Arravis
kreynolds
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Re: Well...
No. I absolutely do not think it would take one wish. I just think that using my own spell and cost formula would allow it. Although, using permanency, yes, it's possible. But using permanency is not the same thing as using wish. If the player wants to research the spell that grants such an ability, for the purpose of using permanency, then they don't need the Wish spell. Also, permanency can be permanently dispelled. My spell and cost formula simply removes the posibility of dispelling the ability.
Arravis said:
No. I absolutely do not think it would take one wish. I just think that using my own spell and cost formula would allow it.
Although, using permanency, yes, it's possible. But using permanency is not the same thing as using wish. If the player wants to research the spell that grants such an ability, for the purpose of using permanency, then they don't need the Wish spell. Also, permanency can be permanently dispelled. My spell and cost formula simply removes the posibility of dispelling the ability.
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Crothian
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Re: well...
Basically you are paying 10,000 xp or 15,000 xp for one that goes up in level with you?
To many factors. What level is the character? What spell is this being done with? What type of campaign is it? Will you get up and leave if after this is allowed, two sessions later it gets dispeled?
I personally don't like the idea of permanent spells on anybody, even my own PCs. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but that';s just personal preference.
Arravis said:
Basically you are paying 10,000 xp or 15,000 xp for one that goes up in level with you?
To many factors. What level is the character? What spell is this being done with? What type of campaign is it? Will you get up and leave if after this is allowed, two sessions later it gets dispeled?
I personally don't like the idea of permanent spells on anybody, even my own PCs. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but that';s just personal preference.
Well...
The party are all level 18, it's a Forgotten Realms campaign. My personal instincts tell me that having a player with 29 SR is a bit overpowered, but perhaps not... I'm uncertain. At 18th level, the players have earned a measure of power and I don't wish to cheat them of that, but I don't wish to unbalance the campaign either. I think I would allow it, but after a proper penalty is paid, be it XP or some other "disadvantage". Perhaps an inheret spell failure chance, since the wizard/sorcorer has added so much SR without having generations of adaptation to adapt to it (as the drow have). Anyway, I'm on the fence on this one, so any advice is appreciated.
The party are all level 18, it's a Forgotten Realms campaign. My personal instincts tell me that having a player with 29 SR is a bit overpowered, but perhaps not... I'm uncertain. At 18th level, the players have earned a measure of power and I don't wish to cheat them of that, but I don't wish to unbalance the campaign either. I think I would allow it, but after a proper penalty is paid, be it XP or some other "disadvantage". Perhaps an inheret spell failure chance, since the wizard/sorcorer has added so much SR without having generations of adaptation to adapt to it (as the drow have). Anyway, I'm on the fence on this one, so any advice is appreciated.
Crothian
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Well, FR is a higher magical world. And SR 29 at 18th level is pretty good, but assuming your going up against opponets of equal ability, that's about a fifty fifty chance the spell works. It is for a Wizard, right? Not to sound Classist, but a cleric has a better chance of surving many of the nasty spells then a Wizard does. So, I'd say yes to a Wizard and no to a cleric in this case.
Your right, they are powerful at that level and rewarding them like this is good for high level campaigns. Plus, there is a chance it'll get dispelled.
Perhaps having a 5% or 10% arcane failure come with it would be okay. Don't make it to high. You want it to be an annoyance, not a huge disability. I'd also allow him to take a feat that got rid of the arcane failure. The feat would show that he's learned to cast with SR on him.
Your right, they are powerful at that level and rewarding them like this is good for high level campaigns. Plus, there is a chance it'll get dispelled.
Perhaps having a 5% or 10% arcane failure come with it would be okay. Don't make it to high. You want it to be an annoyance, not a huge disability. I'd also allow him to take a feat that got rid of the arcane failure. The feat would show that he's learned to cast with SR on him.
