D&D 5E (2024) With Weapon Mastery likely making it in, do you want optional exotic weapons and exotic weapon masteries?

[Minigiant]

I was thinking for Regional exotic weapons

Weapon	Damage	Property	Mastery
Battleaxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Topple
Longsword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warhammer	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warpick	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Khopesh	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Crush
Macuahuitl	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Shred
Hooksword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Pull
Waraxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Hack

Like this

 

[mellored]

I was thinking for Regional exotic weapons

Weapon	Damage	Property	Mastery
Battleaxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Topple
Longsword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warhammer	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warpick	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Khopesh	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Crush
Macuahuitl	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Shred
Hooksword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Pull
Waraxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Hack

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If your going to do that...

Weapon	Damage	Property
Battleaxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10
Longsword	1d8	Versatile 1d10
Warhammer	1d8	Versatile 1d10

And choose a mastery.

Much shorter list.

 

[mellored]

8th level feat:
+1 int, wis or cha
learn one 3rd level spell
gain one 3rd level slot.

Done.

8th level feat
+1 Str or Dex
You can chose a mastery and apply it to another weapon. The chosen kind of weapon must qualify for the new property.

Done.

Still no need for 20 more weapons.

 

[tetrasodium]

I was thinking for Regional exotic weapons

Weapon	Damage	Property	Mastery
Battleaxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Topple
Longsword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warhammer	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Warpick	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Flex
Khopesh	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Crush
Macuahuitl	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Shred
Hooksword	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Pull
Waraxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10	Hack

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Monks get evasion at level 7, druids get elemental fury at level 7, rogue reliable talent at level 7, cleric blessed strikes at level 7...
Should those also be attached to a longsword like the fighter's or are the fighter's weapon expert or do those belong on something more exotic like slightly differently named armor instead?

 

[Minigiant]

If your going to do that...

Weapon	Damage	Property
Battleaxe	1d8	Versatile 1d10
Longsword	1d8	Versatile 1d10
Warhammer	1d8	Versatile 1d10

And choose a mastery.

Much shorter list.

We aren't getting that though.

If 5.5e2024 edition locks weapon to both property and mastery then you need to create whole new weapons for any character who doesn't have the appropriate levels of the one can that can swap masteries to have new combinations.

 

[Minigiant]

Monks get evasion at level 7, druids get elemental fury at level 7, rogue reliable talent at level 7, cleric blessed strikes at level 7...
Should those also be attached to a longsword like the fighter's or are the fighter's weapon expert or do those belong on something more exotic like slightly differently named armor instead?

You are asking the wrong person if you are looking for someone who doesn't think level 7 class features should have multiple options.

 

[Horwath]

Yea they stripped away too many build influenced subjective elements (acp asf variable max dex etc) and didn't apply a hard gating like that wither. I prefer the more variable subjective style used with 3.x armors but that could work if there were stuff between 8&16(ie 1012 14 16) as well

STR 8 and 18 were mentioned as corner cases

 

[mellored]

We aren't getting that though.

If 5.5e2024 edition locks weapon to both property and mastery then you need to create whole new weapons for any character who doesn't have the appropriate levels of the one can that can swap masteries to have new combinations.

Or... you let the fighter have something only they can do, like every other class.

Or... you make a feat that allows mastery swapping.

Or... something I haven't thought of yet.

 

[Minigiant]

Or... you let the fighter have something only they can do, like every other class.

Or... you make a feat that allows mastery swapping.

Or... something I haven't thought of yet.

Currently we don't or wont have those.
So until things change... there is usefulness of an exotic weapon variant rule than gives you Swords with different masteries.

Even if mastery swapping becomes universal, more masteries would offer more options.

 

[mellored]

Currently we don't or wont have those.
So until things change... there is usefulness of an exotic weapon variant rule than gives you Swords with different masteries.

Currently, it's a playtest and we haven't gotten any refinement on the mastery system.
Other than "people really liked it", they haven't gone though the feedback.

Even if mastery swapping becomes universal, more masteries would offer more options.

If they want to add another mastery at some point, then sure. Add a weapon.

Or if you can do it before the playtest ends, add it to an existing weapon. Here are some ideas I had.

https://www.enworld.org/threads/mastery-suggestions.697719/

No need to do anything more complicated than that.

And definitely don't add weapons just for the sake of more weapons. There are already 40 of them.