Wizard of the Coast Updated Product Listing!

[Harker Wade]

Um, huh?

- Well, I looked at the list that Nightfall linked to and there are no mini products listed after Unhallowed and nothing in the Icon line after the Blue Dragon, hence my statement and disappointment. I'm guessing they just haven't announced them yet, but there should be a minis set in July or June following the previous release schedule...

 

[Enforcer]

I hope the Rules Compendium does this:
Combine all rules from the PHB and DMG, along with all the crunch and none of the fluff from the Complete ________ series. Oh, and stuff from the PHBII for good measure. The only requirement would be no fluff, just game rule information for all the classes, prestige classes, and feats.

I also want a pony and my own spaceship.

 

[JeffB]

I don't understand your rant.

In order to remain a functioning company, WoTC has to keep publishing stuff- there's no way around it. .

Agreed. Totally understand that. I've run a business. I know how it goes. I'm not clamoring for less releases or whatnot. I've nothing against WOTC as a publisher. I like how they saved TSR and brought back D&D from the dead, yada yada yada. I'm no "hater".

I think it's time for 4th edition is what I'm getting at. Its time for a "do-over"

The game is getting too clunky when most of your adventures now feature much less content due to an increased "encounter stat block" to help you run a combat. The game is getting too clunky when a SECOND DMG, and a Rules Compendium are "needed" to make the game easier for the DM to run. The game is getting too clunky when the vast majority of stats in your books are incorrect (i.e. even the pros who get paid to do this can't get it right). A game is getting too clunky when there is 100 pages of erratta and FAQ/clarifications. The game is getting too clunky when there needs to be several weekly/monthly articles online on how to adjudicate the rules, special situations, and "save" your game.

I guess I'm just getting to where I see Treebore's line of thinking. I'm tired of doing all kinds of "work" just to play a game. I'm older and have much less free time. I have a family, and life besides gaming that uses up most of my time.

And this is a big reason why MMORPGs are making such an impact... they are nowhere near the same as playing a face to face game..but most people just want to GAME and have fun. Having the time to game/getting people together to game as can be witnessed by dozens of threads here over and over is a real issue. When you add all that WORK on top of it for a DM,and have to spend most of your precious session time just adjudicating a complex combat, its no wonder people are going to MMORPGs. Its getting to be too much hassle to play a PnP game. WOTC realizes this..hence the flood of "make it easier" products. And while I appreciate products that attempt to help me in that regard, as I said before I feel they are a band-aid..and not addressing the real problem.

 

[Pants]

Anyone else disappointed that there is no Fiendish Codex III listed.

Wheres the Yuguloth love?

There's a single little tear dripping down my cheek as I type this.

 

[theemrys]

I also want a pony and my own spaceship.

Don't forget sharks that shoot lazer beams... pew pew pew!!!

 

[Zaukrie]

Clearly there are more products coming.

No minis listed after the ones coming soon.
Only one fantastic locations product listed.
No icons listed beyond Blue (Lidda has told us the next one will be revealed at DnDXP)
No fiendish codex III listed (come on, they must be writing one)
No dungeon tiles listed beyond the outdoor one (these sell fast around here, and must have a quicker turn time than an adventure or accessory)

Obviously these are in the pipe line, but aren't disclosed yet.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Speculation time:

Dungeon Survival Guide mentions the Tomb of Horrors, the Sunless Citadel, and the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth. Any guesses on what other "fantastic dungeons of the fictional D&D world" might make the cut?

Offhand:

The Caves of Chaos
The Lost City
The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan
The Shrine of the Kuo-Toa

Others?

In other news- 224 pages on the Drow? The Races books were generally only 192 pages each, and had information on multiple races, not just one. Hm. Gonna have to wait to see the ToC for this one for sure.

 

[Arashi Ravenblade]

These books are the reason my unemployed butt loves birthdays and Christmas so much.

 

[Sammael]

Um, huh?

- Well, I looked at the list that Nightfall linked to and there are no mini products listed after Unhallowed and nothing in the Icon line after the Blue Dragon, hence my statement and disappointment. I'm guessing they just haven't announced them yet, but there should be a minis set in July or June following the previous release schedule...

July set is called Night Below and the two semi-confirmed minis in it are Alhoon and Dread Wraith. It will most likely be a starter set, so I'd also expect a bunch of orcs, goblins, drow, and so on.

Second Icon of the year will be announced at D&D eXperience.

 

[Hjorimir]

If I begged, would somebody be kind of enough to copy/paste the details here? I can't hit the wizards.com site from work...stupid firewall!

Thanks!