World Cup Hockey!!!

[Tom Cashel]

To a general degree, I concur, but I would also argue that the international rules allow for a much faster, more entertaining game (which is comparable to the college game, as well) than the typical clutch and grab of the NHL.

This year's World Cup is being played by NHL rules on NHL-size rinks. (Which is why there's so much clutch-and-grab, and a few fights during the last USA v. CAN game.)

Pretty good games so far, though. I think the emotion of the matchups is really trumping the lack of physical conditioning.

Konawalchuk is damn lucky Todd Bertuzzi isn't in the lineup

I hope he's never in a line-up again. He may be a good player, but the NHL needs less thugs. (This from a Rangers fan...what's the world coming to?)

 

[johnsemlak]

Through the rest of the 70s a number of other "summit series" were held between Canada's best and the USSR.


Additional Canada Cups were held in 1984, 1987 and 1991.

What were the results of those?

 

[LostSoul]

http://wch2004.com/history/index.html

 

[Iuz]

What were the results of those?

The 1974 Summit series (which included WHA, but not NHL players) was won handlely by the USSR four game to one (with three games tied).

In 1975/6 serveral USSR team played a short series against vairous NHL teams.
Scores:
Sun. Dec. 28/75
Central Army 7 at Rangers 3

Mon. Dec. 29/75
Soviet Wings 7 at Pittsburgh 4

Wed. Dec. 31/75
Central Army 3 at Montreal 3

Sun. Jan. 4/76
Soviet Wings 6 at Buffalo 12

Wed. Jan. 7/76
Soviet Wings 4 at Chicago 2

Thu. Jan. 8/76
Central Army 5 at Boston 2

Sat. Jan. 10/76
Soviet Wings 2 at Islanders 1

Sun. Jan. 11/76
Central Army 1 at Philadelphia 4

Contrary to what I said before the first Canada Cup was in 1976. It was won by Canada.

In 1979 the "Challenge Cup" basically replaced the all-star game that year, and saw the NHL all-stars play the soviet red army team over three games. The USSR won 2 games to 1.

The 1981 Canada Cup was won by the USSR. (this caused a big dispute because the trophy was not allowed to go back with the winners; luckily a private citizen was nice enough to pay for an exact replica to be given to the soviets)

The 1984 Canada Cup was won by Canada.

The 1987 Canada Cup was won by Canada.

The 1991 Canada Cup was won by Canada.

The 1996 World Cup was won by the USA.

 

[AIM-54]

This year's World Cup is being played by NHL rules on NHL-size rinks. (Which is why there's so much clutch-and-grab, and a few fights during the last USA v. CAN game.)

See, I would know this if I had CBC

And I don't have ESPN, so I can't watch their mediocre coverage, either.

 

[MulhorandSage]

Konawalchuk is damn lucky Todd Bertuzzi isn't in the lineup

Nah. Todd's a power forward, not an enforcer (the Moore incident and a few others aside). He's got a lousy temper and deserved the suspension for what he did to Moore, but he's got too much talent to be used to deliver payback.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Nah. Todd's a power forward, not an enforcer (the Moore incident and a few others aside). He's got a lousy temper and deserved the suspension for what he did to Moore, but he's got too much talent to be used to deliver payback.

That's just the point right there. todd is never "used to deliver payback"...he just delivers it.

Remember his ten game suspension for coming off the bench when two opposing players were scrapping with Ed Jovanokvski? I doubt he got sent onto the ice by anyone.

He's got a short fuse and a mean streak. Heis the finest power forward in the game.

As for his "never being ina lineup again" cashel, I can't wait to see your plans for the sport of, say, boxing

 

[Iuz]

Tonights's game of Canada vs. Russia will likely be the best round robin game in the N.A. pool. It certainly will determine who finishes first in that pool.

 

[Tom Cashel]

Hey, I'm fine with boxing and I like fighting in hockey, as long as it's between consenting adults. I've watched the film of Bert's last spree many times, and I don't think his advances were being reciprocated, if you know what I mean. He followed Steve Moore around, sucker-punched him, and then rode him to the ice, nearly killing the guy. Do you think Moore needed to literally die for whatever was going on between them on the ice? Apparently Bert thought so.

His fuse is too short and he's way too mean. He needs to sit out a few decades.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Hey, I'm fine with boxing and I like fighting in hockey, as long as it's between consenting adults. I've watched the film of Bert's last spree many times, and I don't think his advances were being reciprocated, if you know what I mean.

They most certainly were not.

He followed Steve Moore around, sucker-punched him, and then rode him to the ice, nearly killing the guy. Do you think Moore needed to literally die for whatever was going on between them on the ice? Apparently Bert thought so.

I suspect I'm a little closer to the story, so I'll bring you up to speed.

• The whole thing was related to Moore's cheapshot on Leading Goal Scorer, Canuck Team Captian and all-around nice guy, Markus Naslund (I suspect you know this, but it is included for the sake of completeness)
  
  
• Moore was tapped by Brad May who wanted to go...Moore gutlessly declines.
  
  
• He is tapped by Ed Jovanovski for the same reason. Same pussy behaviour.
  
  
• Moore is tapped by Mathias Ohlund(!)(Uber-niceguy)...absolutely will not go.

So it looks like Moore doesn't have a taste for his medicine, right? Fair enough. The world is full of pussies.

Until...

• Moore is bumped, not called out, just bumped by Matt Cooke, --the smallest Canuck--Suddenly, Moore is a born gladiator!!!!!.

So after Moore decides to sack up :\ and beat on the smallest guy on the team, he is tapped by Bert...can you guess what his reaction is? You should be able to guess that he goes back to being a pussy (this is the footage you've seen)

Bert is (to my mind, and I susepct from having talked hockey with you in the past--yours) understandably wound up by this. He presses the issue.

If you've seen the footage (and you have) you can see Bert following the guy up-ice trying to get him to drop the gloves. Moore is such a pussy that he literally trys to skate off.

Bert suckerpunches him. moore is out before he hits the ice and both of them (Moore and Bertuzzi) are dogpiled by Moore's teammates.

So choose the most likely occurence from the following list...

• Tood Bertuzzi punched a professional athlete so hard it broke his neck, or...
  
  
• A half-dozen guys piled onto an unconscous guy and his neck was broken in the crush

I would also feel a lot more sympathy for Moore if he was a Naslund-esque, total class player...but the simple truth is that he is a cheap-shot artist.

The week previous to the incident with Bertuzzi, Moore engaged in identical behavior toward The Tampa Bay Lightning's Martin St. Louis (the smallest guy on that team)...chasing his down the ice and sucker-punching him from behind.

Did he deserve to die? No. And he didn't die.

He could've taken his medicine and fought Brad May, and you know the game well enough to know that that would've been the end of it.

He could've gone with with either Ohlund or Jovanovski with the same results.

But not only did he decline those worthies, he then picked a fight with the team's littlest guy (Cooke).

This is after cheap-shotting the captain in a run-up to the playoffs.

Steve Moore.

His fuse is too short and he's way too mean. He needs to sit out a few decades.

We'll just have to disagree.