WotC WotC blacklist. Discussion

[Parmandur]

That's not what was said .

Then please,clarify.

 

[billd91]

Is it though? Is it really?

Yes. It’s a pretty big statement to make. Kind of needs clarification.

 

[Reynard]

Yes. It’s a pretty big statement to make. Kind of needs clarification.

How does it affect your game?

 

[billd91]

How does it affect your game?

Can you keep the threadcrapping to yourself?

 

[dave2008]

I'm confused at to why we're talking about ENWorld being on that list; I don't see anywhere where Morrus stated or even implied that they were. It feels like people are jumping to conclusions...

The OP quotes Morrus. Obviously the quote doesn't mean he is saying EnWorld is blacklisted, but it could look like that. And I believe the discussion is more generally about WotC having a blacklist.

Now that fact the Morrus hasn't clarified the statement makes one question it to some degree.

EDIT: Personally I think having blacklist is fine. The issue is how you use such a list and how one gets on or off the list.

 

[dave2008]

It seems to be a current regime thing...

Why do you think that?

 

[Parmandur]

Why do you think that?

Because I remember when ENWorld got interviews and such, and Morrus has complained about the lack of communication from WotC before. I don't know when that stopped, because I was an irregular lurker for 12-15 years.

 

[Mistwell]

This is a pretty weird vaguebook.

 

[Ancalagon]

I'm confused at to why we're talking about ENWorld being on that list; I don't see anywhere where Morrus stated or even implied that they were. It feels like people are jumping to conclusions...

Very true

... and yet Morrus posted 3 times before you did on this thread, had ample opportunity to dismiss the rumor. I mean... we all make mistakes, and maybe it was just that, but Morrus has fueled said rumor by not taking said opportunity to clear thing up.

 

[Steampunkette]

@Morrus is ENPublishing/ENWorld blacklisted by WotC?

I anticipate a response of "I dunno, I haven't seen their blacklist."

 

[Mistwell]

From the other thread:

I'm not sure what you are referring to here. Are you saying that Zak Smith and/or Satine Phoenix convinced WotC to blacklist EN World?

I can assure you that neither of those people were ever in a position to do that thing. But no, I (and ENW) have no relationship with WotC and have not had for several years.

 

[JEB]

I'd be surprised if ENWorld was on Wizards' blacklist, since we know folks who worked on Radiant Citadel were acknowledging posts here. Though I suppose those were freelancers, not Wizards employees...

 

[Yaarel]

The recent WotC surveys mention ENWorld by name.

I assume ENWorld is on a WotC "whitelist" as a significant newssource.

 

[not-so-newguy]

I don't keep an official blacklist, but I do have a list in my head of people I won't ever work with again.

Everyone should have a list, if you've worked long enough in any career

 

[Mistwell]

Everyone should have a list, if you've worked long enough in any career

The only list I have is "that vendor charges too much, find someone who charges less". Which isn't a blacklist as I will still use them if I can't find anyone else to buy from.

 

[not-so-newguy]

The only list I have is "that vendor charges too much, find someone who charges less". Which isn't a blacklist as I will still use them if I can't find anyone else to buy from.

I admit that I was being glib. I was referring to the fact that that are certain people or companies that I will never work with again.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

ENWorld was on WotC's recent survey. Seems like a weird thing to do with a site that you've blacklisted, when you could leave it to be written in under "other".

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

While not about WotC, anyone here who has people on Ignore, or does so on other sites or social media, has a personal blacklist for those sites. And for another comparison, Colin Kapernick is blacklisted by the NFL, or some team would have signed him long ago. The first could be an example of a good use of a blacklist, while the other is a bad use. But either way, blacklists have to follow a fine line between being preventative/warning of bad actors and bullying. If WotC has one, I would think it would be the kind used to warn other companies about anti-inclusive asshats that don't deserve space in something that is only trying to be more open and inclusive.

 

[a.everett1287]

Maybe they're threatened by Level Up.

There is no reality where the numbers of Level Up will ever seen like a threat to WoTC or D&D.

 

[dave2008]

Because I remember when ENWorld got interviews and such, and Morrus has complained about the lack of communication from WotC before. I don't know when that stopped, because I was an irregular lurker for 12-15 years.

I remember that the D&D team used to more involved in EnWorld; however, I believe that change occurred before the "current regime." I also don't know that they are on a blacklist either. Though I do find it interesting that EnWorld reports about D&D stuff, but doesn't get the interviews and early PR info that some sites do. So maybe it started with an earlier regime and has continued?