You are all GODS!!

[Rathan]

What it SEEMS Frozen is saying Sunking is that the castle is an ACTUAL psychical place on the planet that is can be accessed by mortals and in slight effected mood and culture wise by the realm of dreams HOWEVER. his actual realm of dreams starts at the portal within the city. Does that sum it up FM?

On a side note.. I love the idea because it gives the mortals a city to discover someday. I fully made city almost like a standing ancient city perfectly preserved. awesome concept..

 

[Frozen Messiah]

What it SEEMS Frozen is saying Sunking is that the castle is an ACTUAL psychical place on the planet that is can be accessed by mortals and in slight effected mood and culture wise by the realm of dreams HOWEVER. his actual realm of dreams starts at the portal within the city. Does that sum it up FM?

On a side note.. I love the idea because it gives the mortals a city to discover someday. I fully made city almost like a standing ancient city perfectly preserved. awesome concept..

Thakee sai, Rathan it's mighty kinda ya ta be doin' me dis little favor (sorry just ffelt like talking like a cowboy, Duretep is rubbing off on me )

 

[Myth and Legend]

Geez Sunking ok you were the original instigator of this game. Do you still remember the point to the game? Us (aka the players) roleplaying Gods. The mortals are NPCs. They are a byproduct. Why are you trying to safeguard them, limit our power, give them means to kill us, etc? What is the point i fail to see your logic honestly help me out here.

We play Gods.
Gods are superior to mortals.
Gods can use their power to rule over mortals, or meddle in their affairs.
Gods can kill mortals by the bucketloads if they choose so.
Gods represent the ultimate freedom, a playground only to ourselves. We can do what we could have never done in a standard game.

You suggest:

We leave the mortals to fend for themselves, let them evolve and work things out.
We don't enter the world in full form because it's a catastrophic event if a God dies.
We give the mortals a means of killing Gods via some uber depleted uranium swords.

It seems to me that you contradict yourself. Do YOU want to play a God or do you want to see HM develop a world of mortals and eat popcorn, watching from the side? And don't bring in the challenge argument, since HM already said he got that covered.

If Sirion wants to be the observant, uninvolved type - fine. Heliasillyel is his total opposite in that regard, and i fail to see why you want to push some unified standard.

 

[Sunking]

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myth you asked what u could make with it:
In short everything

With the armor seed you could make
+38 armor as spell mage armor DC 35 spellcraft
+7 Insight bonus to AC DC 45 spellcraft
+7 Divine bonus to AC DC 45 spellcraft
+7 Deflection bonus to AC DC 45 spellcraft
Each of these spells would be personal take 100 days to cast require 9 followers who puts a 9th lvl slot in the spell but the they would be permanent.

with the reflect seed
As a immediate action no somatic or verbal costing 20000 XP, 24 hours duration or to expended.
Reflect any one spell cast on the god even AOE and/or epic back at caster DC 61 spellcraft
Reflect 50 attacks back at attacker DC 45 Spellcraft

And that’s when I am keeping the DC down were Sirion could just take 10.

And that’s just 2 out of 24 seeds with which to make spells and that’s before going into the places were no one should go.
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I know im playing him very Lawfull but thats it im roleplaying him just as you are roleplaying your gods, and no i dont wanna sit back a look at HM playing puppet teater for us but I have my reasons and I dont expect that Sirion gets his will in all im expecting opposition since we are allot of difrend allignments and philosofies.

and frozen if you would want ten cityes just go for it in the mist im not co-dm only player, only thing that might get in the way would be the rules about divine realms (since it must be one one plane) but in the RP you just beat me in the head with a stick

And no im not trying to be a *** im actulia having fun in the mist, only a little disapointed that we have to go here so much.

unified standard sounds like somthing mighty lawfull to me

 

[Rathan]

rp you character as you see fit Sunking... we're not judging you here for that.... out characters might IC though... however that's just it... it's just rp

 

[GlassEye]

Both events were artificially staged by Wizards of the coast to justify the changing of the rule system.

Just an aside to the argument but the Avatar series of modules (the whole Time of Troubles storyline) was published in 1989, almost ten years before Wizards bought TSR and eleven years before the introduction of 3.0.

 

[Myth and Legend]

Wow.. These Epic Spells are scary stuff to be sure. Now Sunking, i can see the unified standard being your God's desire as a Lawful being, but answer me here (not as Sirion):

The mortals are NPCs. They are a byproduct. Why are you trying to safeguard them, limit our power, give them means to kill us, etc? What is the point i fail to see your logic honestly help me out here.

I really don't understand. Banishing us, killing us, us not interfering. What is the point? Why are the mortals so important to you, as a player? Why are you trying to equalize the power ratio between Gods and mortals? I just don't see any merit in such actions, i cam here to play a god and not be prone at the whim of a gnat.

 

[Theroc]

I don't understand why Sirion himself has such a vested interest in giving mortals a trump card over the gods... but Torath wouldn't even care IC to ask. He'd just refuse to agree.

 

[Sunking]

see sirion was a motal who acendet to godhood tru self disiplin (at least thats what he thinks) so he belives that all mortals should have that chance, he alo belives that if the gods keeps running around changing the world and rules all the time it will muck up the world and the mortals (specely the gods not as self-disiplined as himself).

 

[Myth and Legend]

Are you even reading my posts? I asked you to answer as a player, not as your character! I don't care about the balance of power between Gods and mortals, I don't care about giving each farmer and swineherd a chance to ascend to Godhood because I came to this game to play as a God. Not one of the other Pantheons, both real world and DnD, has stuff like mortals capable of banishing Gods and steel that can kill Gods and so on. We don't need this kind of power balance, pre-determined restrictions and so on. We are the Gods, we are far far out of the reach of any mortal being, this is the essence of this game.

Everyone chose their back story and let's just leave it as that - as flavor. HM can decide whether and how new Gods will ascend, if he decides it, he can always write in a new God. He doesn't need power scaling and some great Hippie equalization movement to promote mortals that can stab Gods and take their powers.