You are all GODS!!

see sirion was a motal who acendet to godhood tru self disiplin (at least thats what he thinks) so he belives that all mortals should have that chance, he alo belives that if the gods keeps running around changing the world and rules all the time it will muck up the world and the mortals (specely the gods not as self-disiplined as himself).


Haha, Torath ascended by clawing his way on top of the corpsepile, as a former mortal... so he doesn't believe in coddling them.
 

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Wow look at the one wanting all the rules looking for shoot from the hip rules-less power Gods and Goddess'. *winks*

On a side note... the only reason Lavaria is going along with Sirion would be that you attract more bees with honey rather than vinegar. Why make enemies when you can make allies to stab in the back later on hehe... it's just a game y'all :D
 

I asked you to answer as a player, not as your character!

I would say Sunking cares as a player because it is important to his character based on the backstory for Sirion as presented. That should be enough for all of us.

(Also, I'm at work and haven't had the chance to read the IC in hours and I sense that I am likely missing something Sirion presented in the Grey Mist.)
 

the reason you are asking fore myth must then be: flyff and roleplay
And its not to be a *** as I have already stated, so I you find Sirion to anoying and do not wish to be creating a world with him just say I don't wanna break this concept I wiuld rather make another god then.

I did not answer as Sirion, I answered why Sirion did what he did, why I as a Player vent that way.
 
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If the other gods refuse to accept Sirion's rule of not walking the earth bodily after they become lesser gods, and if they refuse to allow a metal that can kill the gods, is that a deal breaker for Sirion? Would you have Sirion leave and not be a part of this creation if he can't have these things?

Is there nothing else that Sirion would want for the world?

I understand he is the god of civilization which means the advancement of 'human'-kind (or sentient races as a whole, however he looks at it) and therefore wants to give those sentients the freedom to achieve the potential they have for growth and enlightenment without overt influence from the gods. I just think there has got to be a way to give Sirion something he wants that doesn't automatically bind or cause detriment to every other god even if they don't agree.

I like Sirion. He brings a needed portfolio to the world. I think he could be a good ally for Ubariya (of course, Ubariya thinks most of the other deities could be good allies under the right circumstances). Sirion, however, is probably the one deity that holds the most similar ethical and moral beliefs as her. What I'm saying is I don't want you to give up on Sirion just because none of us agree with you on this. Frankly Ubariya is afraid it might be necessary to take this step but she is also unwilling to limit herself in this way at this point in time.
 

It wont be a deal breaker no, its just when the attacks begin to come in this tread instead of the RP tread I thing i might have stepped some people on their toes, and I would rather retire Sirion and make a new god than lose a player at this time of the campagien...

and oh yea Sirion can be quiet stuborn (as I said earlyer LAWFULL NEUTRAL)

Personal I find Batman so much more fun to play then superman!
 

To be clear, I as a player am not bothered by Sirion's terms(though were I in my characters position I too would balk), but I must say there's no way Torath would ever agree to handing someone something with which to kill him.

As for the year and a day, I'll have to post more on that. I can see him agreeing more to something like that, though he'd likely desire the ability to at the very least have his Avatar roam while he was 'confined' to his own realm due to the rejection of his own creations...(should he take the Avatar SDA).
 

As the player of one lawful deity to another: Sirion and Ubariya are more likely to be constrained by their nature to keep any oath they make than any of the non-lawful deities (and Sirion and Ubariya are the only lawful deities!). Moral: be careful making oaths! Ubariya has probably already made a couple that will come back to haunt her ;)

Idea for Sirion: It seems to me that Sirion's greatest potential threats/enemies are Lavaria (the only god that doesn't have something tied to civilization in her portfolio) and Duretep (because madness seems to be opposed to Sirion's brand of enlightenment). Add crystals to Sirion's portfolio (he already has an Emerald Bastion after all). Formed from chaos but a potential tool against madness (by increasing the power of the enlightened mind). Doesn't help the current situation but widens Sirion's arsenal, so to speak.

Everyone: HolyMan suggested to me (after I PM'd him on a related matter) that we keep a record of the oaths we make in our character sheets in the Rogues Gallery. Thought I would throw this out there before we get too many pages past where we make/made the oaths.

Theroc: At the moment, Torath's charisma is 15 1 points too low to take the Avatar SDA. Since HolyMan hasn't posted anything about stat increases you might consider that when Torath makes his reply. Edit: Didn't see his Special Traits...
 
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Fair enough if Sunking is RPing that's all i need :)

Rathan: I insisted on rules for character creation, because we as players must have strict boundaries so that we all end up in the same power levels and visualize the same things that a God can do.

I don't want equalization between Gods and mortals just like i wouldn't want the PCs in a campaign I play in to be measured against every commoner they meet.

Basically I'm on the same boat as Heliasillyel on this one... Damn, she is too close to my own character on some levels. I miss my Chaotic Neutral Minotaur that I had in CM's game :(

Oh on the side note, I don't want to see Siron go and I'm not going anywhere either. The worst that could happen is that we have some sort of Divine War at world creation, similar to the Titanomachy.
 
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I just want to say to all of you that I am having an awesome time with this game! RP is great; OOC discussions are thought-provoking.

Thanks!
 

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