PHB3: Random stuff that doesn't merit a full post

[DracoSuave]

Well it does not come up often, but:

If you multiclass or hybrid into Runepriest, you get the ability to use Rune of Mending, or use other Runic powers.

The ability to enter a rune-state and get the Rune of _____tion riders is a function of the Runic keyword, not of the a class feature, so a multiclassed runepriest could enter the runestate of Rune of Destruction. However, as he does not have the Rune Mastery class feature, he doesn't get the persistant runestate bonus that a normal Runepriest gets from his Rune Mastery.

The Rune Mastery classfeature, then, allows -other- non-Mastery runepriests to activate the Rune of Destruction mastery benefits without having Rune Mastery.

 

[abyssaldeath]

Augments only list the stuff they specifically change.

-O

The non augmented power consists of only an effect line and the augment 2 adds a hit line, but there is no attack line in the power at all.

 

[DracoSuave]

It's funny but not really overpowered at all. Not having a damage die really kills a power (especially a multi-hit power), comparable powers will be near or better in damage even after factoring in accuracy.

Well... it is Con+Con+Con DPR damage guaranteed...

So if you're con mod is at level 14 +6, that makes it an 18 DPR attack.

Contrast with your basic attack which, if you're using a one-handed hammer (assuming 50% hit rate), +4 weapon, +2 weapon focus, and IABoP,

.5(1d10 + 6 + 4 + 2 + 2) + .5(3)
.5(5.5+6+6+3)
.5(5.5+15)
.5(20.5)
10.25.

So... 18 DPR vs 10.25....

Not to mention the augment is an attack that deals .5X4X(con+cha)+.5X4Xcon
4Xcon + 2Xcha
which is probably about 34 DPR....

 

[Prestidigitalis]

DracoSuave:

Your math goes haywire on the second step. It should be

.5(5.5+6+8+3)
....
11.25.

Not that it changes much.

 

[DracoSuave]

DracoSuave:

Your math goes haywire on the second step. It should be

.5(5.5+6+8+3)
....
11.25.

Not that it changes much.

Coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

My bad.

 

[Obryn]

And don't forget bonus damage on critical hits; you have several chances to get one.

-O

 

[Prestidigitalis]

Coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

My bad.

You can say that, but when the earth spins off its axis due to your mistake, we'll still be coming for you.

 

[DracoSuave]

You can say that, but when the earth spins off its axis due to your mistake, we'll still be coming for you.

Pffft. By then gravity will have gone away... good luck driving without traction!

 

[bganon]

The Hammer Rhythm+Brutal Barrage combo fun was discussed when the preview came out: http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-4t...tleminds-ok-defenders-fantastic-strikers.html

The answer I got then was that, yes, the DPR is a bit high (and of course ridiculously consistent), but it's still low-to-mid striker level, nothing crazy. And while Str 14 is useful for weapon-based feats, I'm not really sure it's worth it for a Battlemind: it's 5 point-buy points into a stat that's not even tertiary for the class.

 

[DracoSuave]

The Hammer Rhythm+Brutal Barrage combo fun was discussed when the preview came out: http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-4t...tleminds-ok-defenders-fantastic-strikers.html

The answer I got then was that, yes, the DPR is a bit high (and of course ridiculously consistent), but it's still low-to-mid striker level, nothing crazy. And while Str 14 is useful for weapon-based feats, I'm not really sure it's worth it for a Battlemind: it's 5 point-buy points into a stat that's not even tertiary for the class.

Str 14 isn't -that- hard to get into... when you can do mid striker level damage, consistantly, while using a shield as a defender, that's certainly viable.

Not to mention, Charisma-based Battleminds are the mobility based ones, which means that having your secondary pushed to the max isn't as necessary. And Battleminds don't have a basic attack-replacing power, so it's not a bad idea to have some strength to cover that base anyways if you're not wanting to pick up Melee Training.