Hussar
Legend
Presuming, of course, that there are iconics, what would you like to see.
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D&D 5E What do you want to see as the 5e Iconics?
tlantl
First Post
What are we talking about here? The class and race representations of 3e and pathfinder, replete with dumb names and crappy art?
They can do us all a favor and do away with it.
My characters neither look like those nor do they represent anything in my game. I'd prefer they illustrate the books with generic depictions of adventurers adventuring to illustrate aspects of the game rather than try to impose a tone and feel to the characters themselves.
All I can see in my mind is the pathfinder characters and their junk collections hanging from every available square inch of their bodies. *shudders*
I also have issue with art that depicts armor and clothing that is actually impossible to move in without killing oneself.
That goes for the descriptions of the races too. I hate to have to tell new players to ignore the race and setting text because I use something much different, or stuff from an earlier edition. It's bad enough that I have to acclimate them to the setting, it's worse when they have to alter the image in their minds of what the characters and the world looks like.
I think the art should convey a sense of wonder and mystery that gets players excited to play. I also feel they should use inspiring language to motivate players rather than rely on some colorful images to do it.
They can do us all a favor and do away with it.
My characters neither look like those nor do they represent anything in my game. I'd prefer they illustrate the books with generic depictions of adventurers adventuring to illustrate aspects of the game rather than try to impose a tone and feel to the characters themselves.
All I can see in my mind is the pathfinder characters and their junk collections hanging from every available square inch of their bodies. *shudders*
I also have issue with art that depicts armor and clothing that is actually impossible to move in without killing oneself.
That goes for the descriptions of the races too. I hate to have to tell new players to ignore the race and setting text because I use something much different, or stuff from an earlier edition. It's bad enough that I have to acclimate them to the setting, it's worse when they have to alter the image in their minds of what the characters and the world looks like.
I think the art should convey a sense of wonder and mystery that gets players excited to play. I also feel they should use inspiring language to motivate players rather than rely on some colorful images to do it.
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
I'll probably get lynched for this, but it doesn't get much more iconic D&D than this guy:
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Lanefan
Victoria Rules
Lighting my torch and pulling out my pitchfork as we speak...I'll probably get lynched for this, but it doesn't get much more iconic D&D than this guy:
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Lan-"the character in that picture needs to die in a fire"-efan
UngeheuerLich
Legend
Yeah, Pathfinder art is also not to my tastes, but I did like 3rd edition Iconics.
IMO it was quite nice having the same characters in different situations. And in heroes of the feywild in 4e they also returned to iconic characters.
As in 3rd or 4th edition we don´t need stats for them, but It gave the book a coherent theme and if you saw one of them doing fancy stuff, you insantly know, which class it represented!
IMO it was quite nice having the same characters in different situations. And in heroes of the feywild in 4e they also returned to iconic characters.
As in 3rd or 4th edition we don´t need stats for them, but It gave the book a coherent theme and if you saw one of them doing fancy stuff, you insantly know, which class it represented!
delericho
Legend
I'm inclined to think that the Iconics were more useful than not - they gave a ready source of characters on whom to hang examples in the text, without constantly having to reintroduce things.
I'm also inclined to think WotC would do well if they provided stats for these characters (at various levels) for download on their site, so anyone who wants a pre-gen quickly can get one.
As for the specific iconics themselves... I don't really mind. I would like to see an appropriate mix of (real-world) races and sexes, and certainly want to see the female iconics dressed sensibly. But that's getting into details, and is another discussion for another thread.
I'm also inclined to think WotC would do well if they provided stats for these characters (at various levels) for download on their site, so anyone who wants a pre-gen quickly can get one.
As for the specific iconics themselves... I don't really mind. I would like to see an appropriate mix of (real-world) races and sexes, and certainly want to see the female iconics dressed sensibly. But that's getting into details, and is another discussion for another thread.
Tony Vargas
Legend
I mostly saw the iconics as a way of wiggling out of the English pronoun problem. See, English is sexist because the indefinite pronoun is 'he.' By adding the iconics, whenever they talk about a wizard, it's Mialee, so they use 'she,' whenever they talk about a fighter, it's Regdar, so the use 'he.' Cute.
5e is all about nostalgia, so some iconics, perhaps reprised from 3e, or dug up from AD&D somewhere (Gutboy Barrelhouse, Aggro the Axe, Emerikol the Chaotic...), certainly wouldn't hurt.
5e is all about nostalgia, so some iconics, perhaps reprised from 3e, or dug up from AD&D somewhere (Gutboy Barrelhouse, Aggro the Axe, Emerikol the Chaotic...), certainly wouldn't hurt.
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