Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[Morrus]

And as Picard is all about ''modern politics"

Welcome to Star Trek. Have you not met? What did you think the show has always been about?

 

[bloodtide]

Welcome to Star Trek. Have you not met? What did you think the show has always been about?

Well, how about: "Star Trek is about optimism and hope. Star Trek is about the dream that one day humanity can rise above and transcend it’s petty differences, it’s petty squabbles and rise above hatred and war and ignorance and superstition and together, in peace, we can reach for the stars. "

And "
It is about the hope that tolerance, understanding, peace, and the thirst for betterment in all aspects of existence will overcome stupidity and hatred and fear.
It is a celebration of humanity, the purest exploration in fiction of the ideals of humanism, writ large.
It shows us finally tempering the acquisition of knowledge with our noblest impulses. It is about race, gender, greed, religious and creedal division being overcome and pushed aside as humanity reaches it’s true potential for greatness."

See now compare to 2020 Trek that is "I hate Trump and will vet on my TV show!"

 

[Morrus]

See now compare to 2020 Trek that is "I hate Trump and will vet on my TV show!"

Ah, right. Gotcha. It’s only talking about politics when it criticises your politics.

Also, don’t talk about politics on this site. The rules are clear about that. Thanks.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I don't think Picard is any more political than Star Trek usually is, though it might seem so because of how divisive current politics can be. (Or does that count as talking about politics? I guess it might, so I'll quit there.)

How 'bout them Kingons? Think we'll see Worf this season?

 

[MarkB]

Well, how about: "Star Trek is about optimism and hope. Star Trek is about the dream that one day humanity can rise above and transcend it’s petty differences, it’s petty squabbles and rise above hatred and war and ignorance and superstition and together, in peace, we can reach for the stars. "

And "
It is about the hope that tolerance, understanding, peace, and the thirst for betterment in all aspects of existence will overcome stupidity and hatred and fear.
It is a celebration of humanity, the purest exploration in fiction of the ideals of humanism, writ large.
It shows us finally tempering the acquisition of knowledge with our noblest impulses. It is about race, gender, greed, religious and creedal division being overcome and pushed aside as humanity reaches it’s true potential for greatness."

See now compare to 2020 Trek that is "I hate Trump and will vet on my TV show!"

You really think the 60s show wasn't just as direct in addressing the politics of its era?

 

[Zardnaar]

There's political and then in your face beat you over the head with it political.

Picard's not there yet.

Another difference is is it occasionally or every episode?

DS9 had Sisko as a writer in 60s America and it was a really good episode one of the best of the series.

Subtlety, moderation and execution bare key IMHO.

 

[Vael]

My read on Raffi is that she was a problem child officer. Her use of snakeleaf, as she said, wasn't new, so she was doing so while being a commissioned officer. So, one of those brilliant, but troubled types. Serving under Picard granted her a degree of protection, had they not met, I imagine Raffi either would've been stuck at a more junior rank or kicked out. And once Picard resigned ...

 

[Ryujin]

There's political and then in your face beat you over the head with it political.

Picard's not there yet.

Another difference is is it occasionally or every episode?

DS9 had Sisko as a writer in 60s America and it was a really good episode one of the best of the series.

Subtlety, moderation and execution bare key IMHO.

Yup, even TOS had its "force the Federation's hand in doing the right thing" moments.

 

[Hussar]

One rather glaring plot hole though in Ep 3. There's half a dozen very dead Romulan assassins in Picard's living room. Wouldn't the smart thing be to call some attention to the fact that there are half a dozen dead Romulan assassins in his front room and a living witness to the "Vulcan" security officer questioning that doctor with the assassins showing up shortly after?

And, frankly, what's going to happen to Picard's Romulan housekeepers when it is discovered that there are half a dozen dead Romulan assassins (I just like typing that) in the front room?

If nothing else, it's going to shine a great, big, huge, spotlight on the whole situation. It is doubtful that an investigation wouldn't turn up the fact that our "Vulcan" security officer is, in fact, Romulan.

 

[Ryujin]

One rather glaring plot hole though in Ep 3. There's half a dozen very dead Romulan assassins in Picard's living room. Wouldn't the smart thing be to call some attention to the fact that there are half a dozen dead Romulan assassins in his front room and a living witness to the "Vulcan" security officer questioning that doctor with the assassins showing up shortly after?

And, frankly, what's going to happen to Picard's Romulan housekeepers when it is discovered that there are half a dozen dead Romulan assassins (I just like typing that) in the front room?

If nothing else, it's going to shine a great, big, huge, spotlight on the whole situation. It is doubtful that an investigation wouldn't turn up the fact that our "Vulcan" security officer is, in fact, Romulan.

Typical "don't know who you can trust" scenario.