D&D and the rising pandemic

[5atbu]

Just as well it's a forum and I used it in it's anti technology context.

Since this isn't a university lecture il file it between I already know that/don't care.

The Luddites make a really interesting model to build an RPG faction.

 

[NotAYakk]

So, to be extremely clear, the protests have generated results already.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, City Officials Cutting $100 Million-$150 Million From LAPD Budget, Funds To Be Reinvested In Communities Of Color

As he began to speak about reforming the LAPD during his Wednesday evening press conference, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti called this an “urgent moment” for the city, “an infle…

deadline.com

LA has cut 100+ million dollars from their police budget and redirected it to community support.

Not calling that a direct result of these protests would be stretching it.

Is that direct result worth the people who will die from Covid-19 spread? Well, suppose LA's attempt is successful. And US homicide by cop rates falls to UK per-capita rates times the relative murder rates of the two countries.

That would be almost 1000 people per year saved from death by police officer per year. So that wouldn't be nothing.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

57 Buffalo Police Resign From Riot Unit In Protest Of Officers' Suspension

Two officers were suspended without after they were filmed pushing a 75-year-old protester to the ground.

www.forbes.com

This is a problem. 57 people resign because 2 people got in trouble for assaulting an elderly man.

 

[cmad1977]

57 Buffalo Police Resign From Riot Unit In Protest Of Officers' Suspension

Two officers were suspended without after they were filmed pushing a 75-year-old protester to the ground.

www.forbes.com

This is a problem. 57 people resign because 2 people got in trouble for assaulting an elderly man.

More loyalty to their uniform than to the people they ‘swore’ to protect.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

More loyalty to their uniform than to the people they ‘swore’ to protect.

This is why there are protesters. This is why I went protesting. Most cops are good. It's a hard, risky job, but they get power, and they can abuse it. When we try to make it so they can't abuse their power anymore, they complain and turn peaceful protests into riots.

 

[ad_hoc]

This is why there are protesters. This is why I went protesting. Most cops are good. It's a hard, risky job, but they get power, and they can abuse it. When we try to make it so they can't abuse their power anymore, they complain and turn peaceful protests into riots.

First, we shouldn't talk about politics because it is against the board rules.

but since you are making statements like that - no, actually, all cops are bad.

Here are just some of the atrocities they've been committing in the last week. And these are the ones caught on film. They do much worse when they know there are no cameras.

Mod Edit: I'm sorry, but that video isn't appropriate, and I had to remove it. ~Umbran

 

[Umbran]

This is a problem. 57 people resign because 2 people got in trouble for assaulting an elderly man.

So, this isn't about the pandemic.

But, there's an element I recently learned about that may be important enough to some to matter.

57 people resigned from their roles on the Emergency Response Team (ERT_, but NOT from the Buffalo Police Department. Every one of them are still employed by the BPD, as far as I am aware.

As for them resigning "in solidarity"... that may be a bit of a spin. Because, it seems that just before they resigned, the Buffalo Police Benevolent Society announced that it would NOT be covering fees for legal defense of anyone on the Buffalo ERT or SWAT teams for actions during the protests.

All officers in the Buffalo Police Emergency Response Team resign from roles on team

The entire force of the Buffalo Police Emergency Response Team has resigned as of Friday afternoon, in support of the two officers who were suspended without pay following an incident in Niagara Square on Thursday evening.

www.wkbw.com

So, this may be less about principled "solidarity" than it is about covering themselves from legal repercussions of their actions.

 

[Umbran]

Now, recognizing that I myself was part of the tangent.- we really don't want this turning into a thread about the protests, or cops. We should probably focus back on the original topic, please and thank you for your patience on the matter.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

So, to be extremely clear, the protests have generated results already.

Yep.

In other parts of the USA, codes of conduct/engagement/use of force are being revised for the first time in decades. Some are adding civilian review boards to those investigations of incidents involving police use of force. Some are considering requiring professional licensing for law enforcement officers, expanded basic training (beyond the typical 19 weeks*), and meaningful psych evaluation screening.

Hell, more places are contemplating expanding the kinds of criminal backgrounds that would render one ineligible to become a LEO.

All since the killing-inspired protests began.

That, some would argue, is not just results, but worth the shared risk of an extension of the pandemic crisis.




* among the shortest in 1st world nations

 

[Olrox17]

actually, all cops are bad

Wow. I'm not from the US, so I don't really have a horse in this race, just watching from far away, but such an all-encompassing, generalizing, sweeping statement can't possibly be true.