D&D 5E Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade Nerfed in TCoE

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

So, Tasha's Cauldron of Everything is being released a week from now, and I know there is quite a bit of hype for the book so far. I personally am excited for some of the content (Class Feature Variants, Customizing Your Origin, Armorer Artificer, Beast Barbarian, Rune Carver Fighter, Phantom Rogue), but I am not excited for the changes to the Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade cantrips. They have now been changed to have a range of self (5 feet), making it illegible for Twinned Spell, Distant Spell, War Caster, Spell Sniper, and other combinations. It also no longer works with reach weapons, and is even more limited than it was before.

What do you guys think? Do you dislike the change as much as I do, or do you have different opinions on it? Please discuss below.

 

[cbwjm]

I'm not too worried since I don't play AL and can alter things as I see fit. I'd definitely allow these to still be used for warcaster for instance.

 

[Flamestrike]

Beastmaster Rangers just got a whole lot better at 15th level.

 

[Dragongrief]

Have we actually seen the new text for the spells?
Unless they're being weird, it should just be "Range: Self", and "as part of this spell make a melee weapon attack." If they did that, the "within 5 feet" is no longer needed, the range is now set by the weapon.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Have we actually seen the new text for the spells?

It's in the new errata:

https://media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/SCAG-Errata.pdf

 

[Dragongrief]

Well that's special... Guess what is getting sharpied out if any of my players take the spell.

 

[Don Durito]

I wonder how many people who aren't deeply invested in discussing D&D on the internet will even notice the change.

 

[Horwath]

Beastmaster Rangers just got a whole lot better at 15th level.

I am sure that it will be important news to 0,1% of the rangers out there...

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I wonder how many people who aren't deeply invested in discussing D&D on the internet will even notice the change.

Doesn't that apply to basically everything on this site? This doesn't seem relevant or needed.

 

[Don Durito]

Doesn't that apply to basically everything on this site? This doesn't seem relevant or needed.

I just think this is particularly opaque and unclear. They're reprinting the spells but presumably with no mention in the actual book that they've been changed since the last printing - if you bought the spell cards, for instance, would you even realise that what you have on the card and what the DM may have in their book don't correspond? They do spell out there's a change in the errata document, but they don't give us any clear reasoning behind why they're making the change.