D&D 5E Revisited Setting News: Its not the 2023 Classic setting, but rather for 2024

[Henadic Theologian]

WotC has cleverly positioned Greyhawk as holding different genre assumptions from the Forgotten Realms, so combining that nostalgia factor with "old timey Swords 7 Sorcery [cleaned up for the modern day]" as a genre booster, on the 50th anniversary...it just fits as a reasonable possiblity.

Mike Mearls kept pitching that idea, but it never really fit the setting IMHO. WotC has some major Greyhawk fans, but they keep pushing what I've seen other folks call the "Greyhawk Refugees" into the Forgotten Realms and now the Domains of Delight. They've pushed so much Greyhark into FR if they put anymore in, they might as well make Oerth a second moon around Toril.

They wouldn't do that if they had any confidence they were going to visit Greyhawk. It's pretty much only been Greyhawk this has happen too (and Nerath and that started back in 4e, perhaps because Nentir Vale was originally intended to be part of the Forgotten Realms, so I view it as something of an offshoot of FR, more then subcampaign, but something FR can poach from freely ).

Acerarak, Vecna, Mordenkainen, Tasha, and possibly others. Actually given what they did to Great Wyrm Dragons, I suspect some of Greyhawks most powerful Dragons will be found in the Forgotten Realms as well now.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

I hear you, and agree that FR isn't a lock. I'd say it is about 70% likely, with Greyhawk being 25%, and other being 5% (e.g. Exandria, Ravenloft, etc).

I was talking about a 50th anniversary Greyhawk product a few years ago, when the top of the 50th first started coming up. I would go big, like so:

Greyhawk 50th Anniversary Box

• 128-page world gazetteer
• 128-page ruins of Castle Greyhawk campaign
• 96-page city gazetteer
• 36-page historical booklet describing the original Greyhawk campaign
• Cloth Darlene retro map
• Cloth World map by Anne Meyer
• Cloth City of Greyhawk map
• Ruins of Castle Greyhawk cardboard cheatsheets
• Photo of Gary Gygax (just kidding)

Everything would be of high quality - all the maps cloth, sturdy faux leather covers for the booklets, etc. $99.95 price tag.

I agree, that estimate sounds about right. And that'd be an ideal box for me!

 

[darjr]

Huh? What if the "new" format is PDF, print on demand, and special cover for WPN stores only?

 

[Parmandur]

Mike Mearls kept pitching that idea, but it never really fit the setting IMHO. WotC has some major Greyhawk fans, but they keep pushing what I've seen other folks call the "Greyhawk Refugees" into the Forgotten Realms and now the Domains of Delight. They've pushed so much Greyhark into FR if they put anymore in, they might as well make Oerth a second moon around Toril.

They wouldn't do that if they had any confidence they were going to visit Greyhawk. It's pretty much only been Greyhawk this has happen too (and Nerath and that started back in 4e, perhaps because Nentir Vale was originally intended to be part of the Forgotten Realms, so I view it as something of an offshoot of FR, more then subcampaign, but something FR can poach from freely ).

Acerarak, Vecna, Mordenkainen, Tasha, and possibly others. Actually given what they did to Great Wyrm Dragons, I suspect some of Greyhawks most powerful Dragons will be found in the Forgotten Realms as well now.

None of those characters has stayed in the Forgotten Realms, though: Greyhawk is still their main base of operations (or the Feywild for Tasha). Continuing to include references and cameos is precisely what they would do if they planned to revisit it someday.

 

[Demetrios1453]

None of those characters has stayed in the Forgotten Realms, though: Greyhawk is still their main base of operations (or the Feywild for Tasha). Continuing to include references and cameos is precisely what they would do if they planned to revisit it someday.

Heck, Mordenkainen has never actually been in the Realms in a 5e product. He's been seen in Ravenloft and the Nine Hells, but both of those are consistent with his long-established plane-hopping nature.

 

[Parmandur]

Heck, Mordenkainen has never actually been in the Realms in a 5e product. He's been seen in Ravenloft and the Nine Hells, but both of those are consistent with his long-established plane-hopping nature.

He appeared in Waterdeep in the last Ed Greenwood novel, which implied he recuperated there after Curse of Strahd, but that's not "canon" now, I suppose.

 

[Mercurius]

Huh? What if the "new" format is PDF, print on demand, and special cover for WPN stores only?

They have said that the "new format" is not digital, or at least not digital only, or even primarily. Doesn't mean it doesn't include digital augmentation.

I suspect that "new format" means multimedia, including print, digital, perhaps even video or some other form.

It also might have less to do with the actual format of presentation, and more the way it is presented, perhaps as a hybrid of different types of books. Meaning, maybe the new classic settings will come in box sets that include a hardcover, a softcover, maps, and other bits and pieces. Or a slipcase of books, ala Trudvang. It would be a bit sneaky calling those "new," but they kind of are, at least relative to 5E.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

None of those characters has stayed in the Forgotten Realms, though: Greyhawk is still their main base of operations (or the Feywild for Tasha). Continuing to include references and cameos is precisely what they would do if they planned to revisit it someday.

I've seen nothing that suggest Mordenkainen has left the Forgotten Realms, Acerarak is moving between planes and worlds all the time, so who knows where he is at any given time, Tasha's hiding in the Feywild, but will likely visit FR at some point (I think she might end up in CL: BfBG), etc...,

And we're not seeing characters from Planescape's Sigil or Darksun making Cameos, why, because camoes go to settings that aren't getting books setting books primarily.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

He appeared in Waterdeep in the last Ed Greenwood novel, which implied he recuperated there after Curse of Strahd, but that's not "canon" now, I suppose.

Of course it is.

 

[bedir than]

Huh? What if the "new" format is PDF, print on demand, and special cover for WPN stores only?

Cutting out Amazon wouldn't help them make money