D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

One always holds on to hope.

Ima cynic. Never disappointed. If something goes right you get a pleasant surprise.

 

[Eltab]

I heard the best way to "undo" the vaccine was to get directly injected with COVID.

... by eating undercooked venison?

 

[Umbran]

Ima cynic. Never disappointed. If something goes right you get a pleasant surprise.

Sure. But cynicism (at least, by the modern meaning of that term) rather restricts the ability to fully engage to make things better - cynicism tends towards self-fulfilling prophecy.

... by eating undercooked venison?

"I got rid of the vaccine, but now I have trichinosis. Totally worth it!"
--someone, somewhere.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sure. But cynicism (at least, by the modern meaning of that term) rather restricts the ability to fully engage to make things better - cynicism tends towards self-fulfilling prophecy.



"I got rid of the vaccine, but now I have trichinosis. Totally worth it!"
--someone, somewhere.

I leanmore towards not making things worse.

Seems even that's a tall order these days.

 

[Hussar]

Ok, for those of us who are a bit slower than the rest of the class, why would reservoirs of Covid 19 in deer matter? It's not like we have much contact with deer, by and large - they aren't going to breathe on us and, while I suppose urine or feces are around, I don't think Covid spreads that way. If you hunt deer, again, it's not breathing on you, by and large, and, you're going to cook it pretty carefully - certainly enough to kill anything nasty in there.

So, I'm not following the chain here.

I could see if something like cows could be infected that it would be a huge problem. But deer? Is this actually going to matter?

 

[Umbran]

I leanmore towards not making things worse.

If that's enough for you, well, that's you. That isn't enough for me. I don't think we have the luxury of cynicism.

 

[Zardnaar]

If that's enough for you, well, that's you. That isn't enough for me. I don't think we have the luxury of cynicism.

More into what works or what you can achieve.

Ideals are a luxury really. No point having ideals without power.

And most of the current problems boil down to money and power.

Ideals also backfire leading to disillusionment.

 

[Eltab]

Ok, for those of us who are a bit slower than the rest of the class, why would reservoirs of Covid 19 in deer matter? It's not like we have much contact with deer, by and large - they aren't going to breathe on us and, while I suppose urine or feces are around, I don't think Covid spreads that way. If you hunt deer, again, it's not breathing on you, by and large, and, you're going to cook it pretty carefully - certainly enough to kill anything nasty in there.

So, I'm not following the chain here.

I could see if something like cows could be infected that it would be a huge problem. But deer? Is this actually going to matter?

Deer keep getting into urban areas and being hit by cars "near the edge of town", not just out in the countryside / deep in a forest. The chance of exposure to COVID after hitting a deer is currently even smaller than the "struck by lightning" probability range but still a possible event.

Now for the headache questions:
How did the deer get COVID?
Are there other animals it has jumped to?

 

[Zardnaar]

Deer keep getting into urban areas and being hit by cars "near the edge of town", not just out in the countryside / deep in a forest. The chance of exposure to COVID after hitting a deer is currently even smaller than the "struck by lightning" probability range but still a possible event.

Now for the headache questions:
How did the deer get COVID?
Are there other animals it has jumped to?

Doesn't really matter with the amount of human spread. Moot point.

 

[billd91]

Ok, for those of us who are a bit slower than the rest of the class, why would reservoirs of Covid 19 in deer matter? It's not like we have much contact with deer, by and large - they aren't going to breathe on us and, while I suppose urine or feces are around, I don't think Covid spreads that way. If you hunt deer, again, it's not breathing on you, by and large, and, you're going to cook it pretty carefully - certainly enough to kill anything nasty in there.

So, I'm not following the chain here.

I could see if something like cows could be infected that it would be a huge problem. But deer? Is this actually going to matter?

If your assumption is correct and we don't have much contact with deer, how are they getting it/did they get it? Clearly, there was some transmission to the deer population before they started spreading it among themselves and that suggests they either got it from contact with humans or some other animal that also got it from humans. And that raises the question can they spread it back via the same route?

It's true, this isn't the same as diseases spread back and forth between humans and domesticated animals - there the contact is much more consistent and frequent. But deer often do come pretty close to environments with people such as in rural communities where members, of course, often travel to more urban environments...

In any event, having multiple reservoirs of COVID out there in different animal species isn't exactly a thrilling development.