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TSR TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are). The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time...

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are).

The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time of writing).

The action TSR seeks is a "Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership" which is a court declaration about the status of something in dispute.

TSR has launched a campaign to stop Wizards of the Coast

Become a Champion of TSR and Support TSR’s campaign against Wizards of the Coast!

TSR is taking a stand against Wizards of the Coast (“WOTC”) and its wrongful bullying of TSR, our trademarks, and its public libeling and slander of all those who helped create TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and products.

Wizards of the Coast has continually bullied TSR regarding TSR’s legally owned Trademarks. Wizards of the Coast has refused to answer all of TSR's repeated requests that they show any proof of their claims. Wizards of the Coast has the vast resources behind them and is implying to bring them to bear down on TSR.


The new TSR suffered widespread pushback when it launched, which they blamed on WotC, claiming that they were under a "coordinated assault across various channels being mounted.... by [WotC]" The company announced itself earlier this year, having acquired the TSR trademark after the previous holder accidentally let it lapse. It was run by Ernie Gygax, Justin LaNasa, and Stephen Dinehart. After several weeks of controversy, the company split into two -- Wonderfilled (Stephen Dinehart), and TSR (Ernie Gygax and Justin LaNasa).


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The page also indicates an intention to "fight to have WotC's legacy product disclaimer removed" from older products (that's the disclaimer on the older books available on DMs Guild which indicates that those books are products of their time) by claiming that the disclaimer portrays the creators of those older products as "as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products".


TSR will also Fight to Have the WOTC Legacy Disclaimer Removed

TSR is suing WOTC for Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership . TSR will also pursue in the near future having WOTC remove the legacy content disclaimer placed on TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and other products, and retractions of any other libel and slander which alleges that racism and other heinous beliefs are incorporated into those products.

This disclaimer attempts to make a statement of fact argument, and therefore paints all of the writers, editors, artists and consumers of those products as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products. This statement by Wizards of the Coast opens the possibility for the producers and players of these "Legacy Products" to face ridicule, and face the labeling as "bigots", "racists", "misogynists", and worse Cyber & Physical Attacks!

Wizards of the Coast legacy content disclaimer.

"We (Wizards) recognize that some of the legacy content available on this website does not reflect the values of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise today. Some older content may reflect ethnic, racial, and gender prejudice that were commonplace in American society at that time. These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed. Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is a strength, and we strive to make our D&D products as welcoming and inclusive as possible. This part of our work will never end".


TSR3's Justin LaNasa spoke about the campaign in a YouTube video.


 

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Sacrosanct

Legend
TSR: I’m gunna sue you!
WotC: mkay.

Two days later.

WotC: we own a TSR museum and a tattoo parlor?! What are we going to do with a tattoo parlor?!? Oh! Ampersands for everyone!
How I really think this plays out is lawsuit gets dropped or kicked out, and LaNasa and crew have to stop using TSR logos, complaining about being victims as they fade into the distance in obscurity.
 


CleverNickName

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Well it's...not going great.

According to their IndieGoGo page, they have raised $696 from 8 supporters: two have offered their support at $5 apiece, and four others have offered support at $20 each. The last two supporters aren't shown, but I presume those two supporters account for the remaining $646.

There is only one Discussion active, and it's just a single-sentence rant from a fellow named Timothy Schenks. The only discourse happening is six upvotes and eight downvotes.

Not a good showing for Day 1.
 
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Well it's...not going great.

According to their IndieGoGo page, they have raised $696 from 8 supporters: two have offered their support at $5 apiece, and four others have offered support at $20 each. The last two supporters aren't shown, but I presume those two supporters account for the remaining $696.

There is only one Discussion active, and it's just a single-sentence rant from a fellow named Timothy Schenks. The only discourse happening is six upvotes and eight downvotes.

Not a good showing for Day 1.

Up to $717 now. Look out!!

One of the (two) comments includes a vague plea for coverage from the Babylon Bee...the right-wing version of the Onion.

The stupidity, it's spreading!
 



We stand for freedom of speech unless we feel tattled on.
It really says a lot when your statement about your beliefs is all about your rights and how righteous you are, and nothing whatsoever about what your beliefs are. Almost like you'd clearly alienate nearly everyone if you actually voiced them.

"It's my right," is the weakest possible defense of your actions, not the strongest. There's a reason, "it's not illegal," is primarily a defense we hear from grade school children. It's wholly unconvincing of your merits, and merely defends you on grounds of strict liability.
 

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